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Alex Berenson on Twitter: It is awful news. Up to 15 Israelis who are a week out from the third dose have already died? 88 are very sick?
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| Aug 22, 2021
| AlexBerenson
Posted on 08/22/2021 4:41:26 PM PDT by ransomnote
1/ They will spin this as hard as possible, but it is awful news. Up to 15 Israelis who are a week out from the third dose have already died? 88 are very sick? Understand: A) The denominator here will be in person-DAYS - that’s how little time has passed since boosters started.
2/ The third dose produces a 20x-40x peak of antibodies compared to the second dose. And post-second-dose protection peaks at 90-95% for a few weeks. (It doesn’t last.)These people should be in that window, with HIGHER titers. They should have ~full protection. Why don’t they?
3/ The bias in favor of vaccinating healthy older people who can tolerate shots that exists for the first two doses is probably even higher for the third. Again, this means the numbers are WORSE than they seem based on the topline ratios.
TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: berenson; breakthrough; chinavirus; covidobsession; deaths; fauxccine; hideunderyourbed; israel; mortality; qqqqq; qtard; quaxxccine; vaccine; vaxicide; zotthekeywordtroll
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To: tatown
I’m having a hard time figuring out what he is saying, or implying. Is it that the 3rd dose may be causing deaths, or that people are still getting covid after the 3rd dose, or that they are giving the 3rd dose to people with active infections... or?
As for the percentages/math he may (or readers may be) be mixing up the denominators. Again I am not sure what he means - people triple jabbed, or people infected, or total double jabbed population...
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posted on
08/22/2021 5:14:58 PM PDT
by
monkeyshine
(live and let live is dead)
To: DannyTN
The article seems to be calculating the percentages based on the total number of 3X vaccinated people:
According to the data, just 0.2% of the first 1.1 million Israelis who got their booster dose have been diagnosed with COVID-19 after at least seven days passed since the shot. In absolute terms, the number of virus carriers who received their third dose is 2,790. Of them, just 187 (0.01%) were hospitalized and 88 (0.008%) developed serious symptoms. Fewer than 15 of them have died, with the report offering no exact number.
It seems like the extra booster shot is helpful against the latest variant of COVID, but it also indicates that the 2X regimen has a shorter length of protection than was previously disclosed.
To: ransomnote
Specific mention of 3rd dose at 51:30 in this podcast with Dr. Malone & see if you think a 3rd shot is a good idea - make up your own mind for yourself, but it should be INFORMED consent - not getting any truths from the “usual suspects” (like the gov’t, CDC, Fauci, et al).
Find this episode at the link below:
Ep 923 | Can Mass Vaccination During a Pandemic Actually Backfire? | Guest: Dr. Robert Malone
https://www.theblaze.com/podcasts/daniel-horowitz-podcast
Start listening at 45 minutes for more context getting to booster/3rd shot comments.
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posted on
08/22/2021 5:16:51 PM PDT
by
Qiviut
(Faith is the antidote to fear. Mindset: be a victor, not a victim.)
To: ransomnote
Two other people on twitter I wish they where not.
jean-claude perez (personal favorite) and Walter M Chesnut
THE SARS-COV-2 VIRUS GIVES YOU A "COMMON COLD" THEN TRIES TO TURN YOU INTO A VERY SICK 90-YEAR OLD THAT CAN'T FIGHT OFF - A COMMON COLD SPIKE PROTEIN ONE-TWO PUNCH. DAMAGE/PREVENT HEALING ACUTE COVID "PNEUMONIA" IS NOT PNEUMONIA BUT PULMONARY EDEMA RESULTING FROM SPIKE PROTEIN
INJURY TO THE LUNG AND ITS INDUCTION OF STRESS INDUCED PARACRINE CELLULAR SENESCENCE Teaser: Stem cell therapy (injecting cells that are NOT senescent, the cavalry coming to the rescue of the cells that have been zombified, no longer work, and must be cleared out) mediates the cytokine storm and recovers the patient.
The Spike Protein of SARS-CoV-2 gives a "one-two punch" to the lungs (and most likely every organ it infects) by causing injury to the cells, then inducing senescence so they cannot repair/heal themselves. Remember, a senescent cell does not FUNCTION, but is still highly ACTIVE secreting CYTOKINES.
The Spike Protein alone can cause damage to the lungs. What is most interesting is that acute lung damage, which is what the spike protein causes, itself induces cellular senescence and ARDS development In addition to replicative senescence, the type of senescence that is characterized by the shortening of telomeres, another type of senescence, namely stress-induced premature senescence (SIPS), has been described. Increased cellular stress, as mediated by the activation of oncogenes, loss and/or inactivation of tumor suppressor genes, different agents leading to the accumulation of DNA damage such as genotoxic drugs or doses of radiation, the presence of reactive oxygen species (ROS) or metabolic and epigenetic changes can foster cells entering a postmitotic state (2–3 days after stress-exposure).
This is what we see in COVID. There is the initial infection, the Spike Protein damages lung/epithelial/endothelial cells, then, due to its activation of oncogenes and inactivation of tumor suppressor genes, senescence sets in 2-3 days afterwards. I believe it is when this happens that we see the progression to ARDS. It would be about the 7-10 day mark. The dreaded second week.
It may also affect telomeres by interacting with TERT allowing for enhanced lung injury, inflammation, and fibrosis Protecting lung endothelial cells from this fate, is N-Acetyl Cysteine. Thus, chronically increased TNFα levels—potentially resulting from spike-affected neighboring cells—bear the potential to foster chronic inflammatory diseases by mediating endothelial senescence. Of note
anti-oxidant treatment (using N-acetyl cysteine) or NF-κB pathway inhibition (using the inhibitors plumericin and PHA-408) prevented TNFα-induced premature senescence of endothelial cells.
NAC can prevent the senescence from occuring, and Quercetin can clear out the senescent cells before they turn neighboring cells senescent ("zombie" effect). It has been demonstrated that chronic clearance of senescent cells with senolytic drugs (e.g., dasatinib or quercetin), that selectively induce death of senescent cells or genetic clearance of p16-expressing endothelial cells, improves vascular phenotypes.
This brings us to our heros. The Mesenchymal Stem Cells. These cells GENERATE HEALTHY, NEW CELLS which are not (obviously) senescent and can begin to create the cells YOU SHOULD HAVE ALREADY.
If this is a bioweapon. It is the cruelest device I can think of. It itself is a fraud. It takes a virus that shouldn't affect you at all, and turns your body (your T-Cells are also made senescent by the virus) into that of a sick 90 year old on the verge of death that couldn't fight off A COMMON COLD!
https://archive.vn/FFf3p It should be noted that remdesivir that alters NAC.
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posted on
08/22/2021 5:17:29 PM PDT
by
Steve Van Doorn
(*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
To: ransomnote
Virus carriers? Were they giving the vaccine to people with active infections?
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posted on
08/22/2021 5:20:19 PM PDT
by
heartwood
(Someone has to play devil's advocate other.)
To: ransomnote
Alex Berenson is watching global data closely and been reporting on it in Israel extensively pointing to it as important.
The former NY Times reporter is ripping the lies, propaganda and ugly Fascist Left with blistering sarcasm. He has a sub stack that is available with 600K readers. You don’t have to subscribe to get access to some of his work there which is updated weekly.
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posted on
08/22/2021 5:22:05 PM PDT
by
romanesq
(TRUSTY THE PLAN! ChiCom Joe is the Plan? Que magnificent! 👹)
To: freeandfreezing
Isn’t 187 7% and 88 3% of the total 2790?
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posted on
08/22/2021 5:24:28 PM PDT
by
pangaea6
To: Peter ODonnell
Actually, 1.1 million got the third jab.
2,790 caught the virus anyway. So, it’s 185 who were hospitalized out of 1.1 million who were jabbed, and 15 have died.
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posted on
08/22/2021 5:30:15 PM PDT
by
sitetest
(Professional patient. No longer mostly dead. Again. It's getting to be a habit.)
To: ransomnote
Dr. David Bauer on Pfizer vaccine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGIKriLirmg
It is a 57 second video and essentially he says that after the 1st vax, your quantity of neutralizing antibodies has been decreased some.
After the second shot, you have a five to six fold decrease, which continues to decrease with time and the older you are.
So now they are proposing a THIRD and FOURTH shots as boosters.
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posted on
08/22/2021 5:31:57 PM PDT
by
metmom
(...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…. )
To: tatown
Those numbers are for active covid cases in the boosted people. Read the actual article and practice your college level reading comprehension skills. The article is clear those are for people who have a third shot , subsequently were hospitalized and or seriously ill WITH COVID seven or more days after receiving the booster. The article is not saying those numbers were caused by the vaccine itself. Stop just stop with the political axe grinding. Data is data it cares not what your political agenda is but at least comprehend what the information is before spewing political dribble.
Here read the source again.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/nearly-200-covid-deaths-reported-in-past-week-but-booster-data-raises-hopes/
Then stop taking numbers out of context here is the whole context that you omit for your political agenda.
“early data from the Health Ministry aired by Channel 12 news Sunday evening appears to show that those who have received a third vaccine dose are highly protected against the disease. According to the data, just 0.2% of the first 1.1 million Israelis who got their booster dose have been diagnosed with COVID-19 after at least seven days passed since the shot.
In absolute terms, the number of virus carriers who received their third dose is 2,790. Of them, just 187 (0.01%) were hospitalized and 88 (0.008%) developed serious symptoms. Fewer than 15 of them have died, with the report offering no exact number.”
It is clear as day that out of 1.1 million who got their boosters after 7 days only 0.2% or 2790 are virus carriers it in clear terms those 2790 are active covid cases after the third shot and of those who still got covid 187 were hospitalized, 88 in serious condition and 15 died of covid not the shot itself.
1.1 million and only 187 ended up still getting covid and ending up in the hospital thats 0.017% that is an order of magnitude less than for unvaccinated people the data is crystal clear on that.
Texas has even better numbers with our death counts from February when Delta showed up till the study ended in July.
8700+ unvaccinated deaths vs 43 no amount of fake news can change the fact that the vaccine is saving Texans lives.
Again factual data and numbers vs political agenda.
https://www.texastribune.org/2021/07/21/coronavirus-texas-vaccinated-deaths/
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posted on
08/22/2021 5:33:07 PM PDT
by
JD_UTDallas
("Veni Vidi Vici" )
To: Steve Van Doorn
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posted on
08/22/2021 5:39:20 PM PDT
by
sauropod
(Time is like quicksilver, smearing the years... - Bill Nelson)
To: ransomnote
This guy is a former NYT writer. Is he full of shyte or not?
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posted on
08/22/2021 5:40:00 PM PDT
by
Caipirabob
(Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
To: wastedyears
If I missed something, did it say which dose of vaccine it was?
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posted on
08/22/2021 5:42:20 PM PDT
by
cameraeye
(A happy khafir!)
To: romanesq
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posted on
08/22/2021 5:44:37 PM PDT
by
brookwood
(Obama said you could keep your plan - Sanders says higher taxes will improve the weatheryour1ST)
To: Gene Eric
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posted on
08/22/2021 5:45:06 PM PDT
by
bwest
To: ransomnote
The tweets are poorly worded. But 187 / 2,790 * 100 = 6.7%, not 0.01%.
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posted on
08/22/2021 5:46:14 PM PDT
by
gitmo
(If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
To: ransomnote
Predictable outcome for lowering someone’s neutralizing antibodies by 5X with each shot! Notice Israel is only giving this shot to 60+ year olds. Why? Welfare states can only survive when benefits are only dolled out for a short time…
https://youtu.be/uGIKriLirmg
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posted on
08/22/2021 5:48:44 PM PDT
by
Jan_Sobieski
(Sanctification)
To: JD_UTDallas
Go back and read the op. The percentages are expressed in “patient days” while the percentages I gave are absolute percentages.
I’ll try this one more time since the jabs appear to have shrunk your brain.
2790 people received their 3rd dose. Of those:
- 187 hospitalized (6.7%)
- 88 in serious condition (3.2%)
- 15 died (0.55%)
All in a week.
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posted on
08/22/2021 5:49:08 PM PDT
by
tatown
To: pangaea6
Yes, those calculations are correct. In the original article other percentages are given:
"Of them, just 187 (0.01%) were hospitalized and 88 (0.008%) developed serious symptoms..."
Another poster wondered how the percentages in the original article were determined. It appears that they are based on the total number of 1.1 million 3X vaccinated people.
To: R
It is the Chinese engineering grafting the improved SARS into a chimeric shell that borrowed extensively from HIV. It is an act of war by the Chinese against the Global community introducng an endemic, worse than a plandemic. There is no end to this until everyone has met the test. Fortunately 99.7% will survive, and that 5 billion people that survived need to be discussing the harsh reality that must happen to the leaders of the other 1 billion.
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posted on
08/22/2021 5:50:02 PM PDT
by
StAnDeliver
(Each of you have at least ONE of these in your 401k: Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, Johnson & Johnson)
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