Posted on 08/22/2021 12:35:51 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
This is an Excerpt on the vaccines and Ivermectin taken from the Frontline Covid Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC) Frequently Asked Questions (GAQ) Page:
We get a number of questions about vaccines from people anxious about their safety and efficacy. We fully understand your concerns about these new vaccines and the potential side effects. Our research and clinical expertise are in the prevention and treatment of Covid-19 and our protocols contain a range of medicines, that have proven to be extremely effective. The decision to get vaccinated is a personal one, and should be a risk benefit analysis based on your age and medical history, and should be done in consultation with your doctor or medical provider. The FLCCC Prevention Protocols are centered around the high efficacy of twice weekly ivermectin as a preventative. Our Treatment Protocols should be considered in patients who have no access to a vaccine, are unable or refuse a vaccine, or those who have been vaccinated and are concerned about the declining efficacy being reported against emerging variants. The FLCCC Treatment Protocols are of value whether you have been vaccinated or not and should be initiated upon first symptoms and/or a positive test in either type of patient.
Yes. If someone is suffering from a post vaccine syndrome, we have found Ivermectin to be helpful based on several dozen experiences.
Although we lack sufficient data to provide definitive guidance, based on pathophysiologic principles, we estimate that ivermectin is unlikely to significantly impact vaccine efficacy.
So who do you believe when it comes to death serum and prophylactics?
RE: If they can conduct a study that proves it everyone will use it. Until then this is a recommendation of theirs not a proven treatment.
The only way to prove or disprove it is to allow doctors FREEDOM to prescribe it with NO THREATS of delicensing under the principle of INFORMED CONSENT.
They can allow that any time but it is not a study that proves it. I am not against people prescribing what they want but that is not a study
No idea
Ivermectin is heart worm medicine for dogs also.
It doesn’t work. When trump got sick he got monoclonal antibody therapy which does work
I did not say it was wrong. Just pointing out this is not an altruistic venture. People against the vaccine are always saying to follow the money - the point is no one is in this for free
RE: Just pointing out this is not an altruistic venture.
Not necessarily unaltruistic. They have resources (phone lines, web site, servers, etc.) to cover as well. Time and consultation with lots of patients aren’t cheap. $90 is REASONABLE by any consideration.
RE: Ivermectin is heart worm medicine for dogs also.
Question — was Ivermectin originally made for dogs or humans?
“We would like to emphasize that the FLCCC Alliance is not opposed to vaccination”
The Wiki for FLCCC is a travesty. “Right Wing organization pumping out Covid propaganda” More or less from what I recall reading.
There are many studies:
Ivermectin for COVID-19: real-time meta analysis of 63 studies
https://ivmmeta.com/
And
Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infection: A Systematic Review, Meta-analysis, and Trial Sequential Analysis to Inform Clinical Guidelines
American Journal of Therapeutics: July/August 2021 - Volume 28 - Issue 4 - p e434-e460
doi: 10.1097/MJT.0000000000001402
For starters
Dr Judy Mikovitz says in this interview, way at the end, that Ivermectin and HCL are the vaccines and NOT the jabs. It’s a very good interview. She’s an incredibly smart lady. Well worth taking the time to view.
You’re not going to convince Mom MD with that website. I’ve shown skeptical doctors the website and their comment is these studies are:
1) VERY SMALL ( just scores or a few hundred people )
2) NOT WELL DESIGNED (Not RCT for instance ) and mostly done in developing countries.
3) Some of the larger studies like the Egyptian studies have been debunked as corrupted and plagiarized.
As for cases after cases of people recovering after early treatment with the Ivermectin cocktail, they dismiss these as anecdotal, which means that these folks would have recovered on their own like 99.7% of those with Covid do EVEN without Ivermectin.
As I have argued, the only way we can determine whether Ivermectin works or not is NOT to restrict it or threaten physicians who prescribe it with delicensing. After all Ivermectin has been PROVEN to be SAFE for people. 50 years of use has shown that.
Unfortunately, this is what’s happening in the USA now.
If they can conduct a study that proves it everyone will use it.
If you can conduct a study, too, everyone will know if it works or not.
It’s a real catch-22
There are between 7000 and 10000 subjects in these studies combined suggesting 86% success rate for prophylaxis and 72% success rate in early treatment. Those numbers ought to lead to larger studies but they haven’t yet. Why? I believe it is because of the wrongful claims that there are no studies that show effectiveness - tptb (and the trolls here) cherry pick one or two questionable studies to claim it doesn’t work, so no one bothers to do more studies.
Get rid of patents. Problem solved.
LOL My primary care guy was pushing his experimental stuff. I told him I was *thinking* about taking the Johnson and Johnson. He got upset and said that the J & J was too dangerous.
No point arguing with him. He doesn't read the literature.
my daughter, son-in-law and grandson decided not to get vaccinated. They rolled the dice. They all came down with Covid. I live with them, had covid last Summer and decide to get the vaccine anyway in June. So far I remain OK.
My son-in-law and grandson recovered. My daughter had to be hospitalized, grew worse, on the ventilator, and about an hour ago we had to honor her DNR after consultation with two ICU doctors. We let her go.
This is not the time to debate her decision. But I will always wonder if she had gotten vaccinated would her outcome have been different. May all of you make wise decisions.
True. But I don’t have the resources to set up the kind of study that needs to be done to determine if it works or not. You are welcome to if you want or find a group that does.
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