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The Reasons Why Lake Monsters are Not Plesiosaurs and Never Will Be
Mysterious Universe ^ | August 22, 2021 | nick Redfern

Posted on 08/22/2021 11:40:46 AM PDT by BenLurkin

First, there’s the extremely significant fact that the plesiosaur surfaced around 250 million years ago and died out around 66/65 million years ago. Plesiosaurs, the fossil record has conclusively shown, lived in saltwater environments: our planet’s oceans. Loch Ness, however, is a freshwater loch. Yes, there is evidence of the occasional plesiosaur in a freshwater environment all those millions of years ago, but the bulk of the cases are not suggestive of entire colonies of the beasts inhabiting freshwater bodies. It’s far more likely and plausible that they wandered into them and died there. And, yes, there are both a freshwater crocodile and a saltwater crocodile. But, the comparison is meaningless without evidence that plesiosaurs were 100 percent comfortable in both freshwater and saltwater.

[T]there is not a single bit of evidence to suggest plesiosaurs (anywhere on the planet) survived beyond 60-plus million years ago. Yes, we have fossilized examples of plesiosaurs. But, no, they don’t date from – for example, and hypothetically – 20 million years ago, or even 5 or 1 million years ago. They all date from the precise period in which science tells us they came to an end. And even if plesiosaurs did survive – against just about all the odds conceivable – into the modern era, they could not have made their way into Loch Ness until around the end of the last Ice Age. For one simple reason: Loch Ness didn’t exist until then.... So, if they didn’t enter the Loch until approximately 10,000 years ago, up until that point they must have lived in the ocean waters. But, then there’s the problem of why we haven’t found any ocean-based remains of plesiosaurs dating back – for example – 13,000 or 20,000 years.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: champ; lakemonsters; lochness; nessie; nickredfern; plesiosaurs
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To: BenLurkin

I recall a fish that was supposed to be extinct for some tens of millions of years…coming up in a net in the 1930s. (Of course that was in the wide open ocean.


21 posted on 08/22/2021 12:31:03 PM PDT by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: BenLurkin


"Last week, Japanese scientists explaced... placed explosive detonators at the bottom of Lake Loch Ness to blow Nessie out of the water. Sir Cort Godfrey of the Nessie Alliance summoned the help of Scotland's local wizards to cast a protective spell over the lake and its local residents and all those who seek for the peaceful existence of our underwater ally."
22 posted on 08/22/2021 12:32:47 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Salman

LOL!


23 posted on 08/22/2021 12:33:48 PM PDT by nutmeg (NEVER trust democRATs with national security)
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To: PLMerite

People may scoff at things like this, but I don’t know. There are many places in the deep South that are very remote. Many things that “don’t exist” are in fact alive and well. Bears, panthers and Lord knows what else still wander the swamps and woods. Several years ago my Great Danes treed a strange creature. It was a huge weasel like critter. My female leaped up and pulled it down and killed it. It was over four feet long and had huge teeth. Before I could get a picture the dogs took off with it. I called the wildlife people and they said it was a mink. This was not a mink.


24 posted on 08/22/2021 12:34:32 PM PDT by Himyar (Comes A Stillness/ God Bless Robert E. Lee)
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To: BenLurkin

The best argument for no plesiosaurs in Loch Ness is that there is nowhere near enough food to support them.

Interestingly, the reverse proves that thylocines are extinct. The area that they are theorized to inhabit has more of their favorite prey (sheep), and fewer people with guns then ever in the past. If there were any thylocines, there would be a lot of them.


25 posted on 08/22/2021 12:53:20 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: PIF

“Settled science” doncha know.

That’s the 2nd week class of 1st year “Introduction to Liberalized Sciences.”


26 posted on 08/22/2021 12:58:11 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Salman

The hand is pointed in the opposite direction in the shadow upon the water.

Clearly a fake.

/s


27 posted on 08/22/2021 12:59:51 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: broken_clock

Beaney and Cecil.


28 posted on 08/22/2021 1:09:57 PM PDT by jmacusa (America. Founded by geniuses . Now governed by idiots.)
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To: Himyar

A four foot plus member of Mustelidae (AKA, a wolverine), would cut your dogs in half, and then cut the halves in half before they hit the ground. Anywhere your dogs bit one, it could turn around and bite your dog’s face off.


29 posted on 08/22/2021 1:15:55 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: BenLurkin

I love Mysterious Universe


30 posted on 08/22/2021 1:24:43 PM PDT by dljordan (Slouching towards Woketopia)
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To: Born to Conserve

Unless they bit it in the face!


31 posted on 08/22/2021 1:28:30 PM PDT by jdsteel ("A Republic, Madam, if you can keep it." Sorry Ben, looks like we blew it.)
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To: jdsteel

“Unless they bit it in the face!”

These things dodge bullets.


32 posted on 08/22/2021 1:40:33 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: jmacusa

Brought back memories. But I remember them as puppets. There was a Beanie and Cecil Drive-in restaurant in my home town. Don’t remember if I ever successfully begged my parents to let us eat there.


33 posted on 08/22/2021 1:43:39 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: BenLurkin

One of the theories is about mutant eels that never get the sex drive to swim to the ocean to breed. Regular eels only mate once and then die after they breed in the ocean. I guess eels that are kept from mating live a very long time in fresh water, there’s supposedly an eel in a well in Sweden that’s 155 years old. And eels never stop growing I guess, so maybe its just a really old big eel.

Freegards


34 posted on 08/22/2021 1:46:18 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: BenLurkin

😂👌👍


35 posted on 08/22/2021 1:47:25 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix circa 1984.)
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To: logi_cal869

The convenient monster.

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0693512/


36 posted on 08/22/2021 1:53:10 PM PDT by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure.)
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To: BenLurkin
"Daddy sees the family in his headlights, The pain upstairs makes his eyeballs ache. Many miles away there's a shadow on the door of a cottage on the shore. Of a dark Scottish lake."


37 posted on 08/22/2021 1:56:18 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: BenLurkin
As usual, another story that is bog-ignorant of what the serious and sober Nessie hunters think.

They are quite aware that Loch Ness was created in the last Ice Age, which means it's tens of millions of years too young for a sea serpent to have been trapped there since when dinosaurs were alive. They also are aware that the loch has far too little flora and fauna living in it to meet the energy needs of a "sustainable" population of large aquatic animals.

But that doesn't change the fact that the coelacanth and the megamouth shark both were presumed extinct for millions of years before being "discovered" alive and well in the 20th Century.

Plus the Caledonian canal gives creatures in the loch a man-made means to access the sea, which lends the possibility that 'Nessie' might not be a permanent resident there. If they come and go, that would explain why sightings are so sporadic, and how it manages to survive where there is so little food.

They're not saying it's a plesiosaur but descriptions given by eye-witnesses do generally point to something of a similar conformation. Which is one reason they've known for decades that the discredited "Surgeon's Photograph," which they get ceaselessly mocked for, was a fake. In fact that always was a burr under their saddle and they so much as wanted it outed as a fraud because neither the plesiosaur nor any other known reptile of that ilk has had a neck that would articulate in that fashion, like a cobra rearing its head.

38 posted on 08/22/2021 2:41:43 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: Born to Conserve

It wasn’t a wolverine. I’ve seen pictures of them. The Dane pulled this thing out of a tree and snapped it’s neck. Great Danes that still have the prey drive are stone cold killers but most don’t have it. This girl did. This was definitely in the weasel family but way bigger than minks and such that we have in Alabama.


39 posted on 08/22/2021 5:36:25 PM PDT by Himyar (Comes A Stillness/ God Bless Robert E. Lee)
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To: PLMerite

Scientists assured us the Mountain Gorilla did not exist, nor did the orangutan. Even with a sample body, they assured us the platypus was a hoax. Same thing with somtories of the coelacanth.


40 posted on 08/22/2021 5:39:55 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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