Posted on 08/21/2021 7:06:23 PM PDT by Enlightened1
How does one determine and or prove immunity to Covid?
My question also. Where do you got to get tested for prior infection antibodies? Wife is looking at losing her job and I may follow soon after.
The same way Covid is proven...
Can’t be too safe with something that is 99.9% survivable.
This whole thing is BONKERS.
Iād like to know as well.
LabCorp
Go online, sched an appt for test, only 10 bucks
Antibody testing. If you have already had Covid (whether you knew it or not) you have natural antibodies. His suit argued that he should not have to take the jab, since he already had natural antibodies.
Up here in the Boston area Quest Diagnostics will do it for $75. No doctor needed . I had mine done in May showing high antibodies and I am waiting on results from a test this past Thursday . I had Covid at Christmas time .
Good for this guy.
Everyone should be doing this.
Easy to prove.
Read a post, by a FReeper, who had China virus last March 2020...who now has even higher antibodies, now, than they did end of last year!
Quote: It has not and “does not plan to give” natural-immunity exemptions, which “would not be consistent with current medical science or public health guidance.”
What a bunch of arrogant, unscientific, blooming idiots!
Probably either from antibody tests, or, in other countries, because they keep records of those who were infected and recovered. Not sure how you’d prove it here in the USA or get that onto some kind of “passport” here due to HIPPA and lack of coordination and systems integration.
Our leaders’ saying that those recovered need a vaccine are little bit silly but I suspect that they don’t want to send mixed or nuanced signals so they just want to create one mandate for all.
Due to the spike of Delta in Israel - which is a highly vaccinated country - they re-started their vaccine passport system for public gatherings. However, they recognize “previous infection and recovered” as equal to a vaccine. If you are recovered you get the passport regardless of vaccine status. There are probably more than double the official covid numbers of people who were infected and recovered. Nobody knows for sure especially those who were asymptomatic but the Red Cross tested donated blood and found 20% of it contained antibodies. If that is representative of the population (it may not be since many blood donors are front line workers, police, EMT etc) then the number of people infected in the USA is twice that of the official stats... pushing us closer to herd immunity.
In Oregon, you have to get a Dr.’s prescription to get a test and receive a card. Then you have to wave it in front of your woke democrat employer with a hint of legal action.
That is the experience of someone I know.
I messaged my Dr asking about this. He’s always been good with my wife and I and we’ve been seeing him for over 20 years. We’ll see what happens. I just saw him yesterday and he didn’t say a word about the vaccine.
I donated a pint of blood at the Red Cross a month after recovering. They sent me back a notice through the app that I was positive for antibodies. Free process.
4 Aug: The Economist: Where will you need a covid passport?
Proof of vaccination ***OR RECOVERY from infection is increasingly being demanded, not just for international travel but also within countries...
https://www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2021/08/04/where-will-you-need-a-covid-passport
2 Aug: Guardian: Covid passports could work, but coercion is doomed to fail
by Melinda Mills, director of the Leverhulme Centre for Demographic Science, University of Oxford, and a member of SPI-B, the behavioural science subgroup of Sage
Although the details of this measure are yet to be released, it will probably involve showing proof of vaccination, a negative Covid test ***OR RECENT RECOVERY from the virus...
The plans for England’s vaccine passports were announced shortly after France introduced its hardline ‘health pass’ approach, which requires people entering restaurants, cinemas, trains and shopping malls to show proof of two vaccinations, a recent negative Covid test ***OR RECENT RECOVERY from infection...
At the end of June, the Netherlands introduced the type of passport that is currently being proposed in England. Its CoronaCheck app crumbled within hours of release. People were required to have a negative test, proof of vaccination ***OR RECOVERY...
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/02/covid-passports-government-vaccine
17 March: European Commission: Questions and Answers: Digital Green Certificate
The ‘Digital Green Certificate’ will facilitate safe and free movement during the COVID-19 pandemic within the EU. A Digital Green Certificate will be a proof that a person has been vaccinated against COVID-19, has received a negative test result ***OR HAS RECOVERED from COVID-19 that can be used across all EU Member States...
1. General
What are the main elements of the proposal?
The Digital Green Certificate system covers three different types of COVID-19 certificates: a vaccination certificate, a test certificate, and a ***CERTIFICATE OF RECOVERY...
The certificates should only include a minimum set of information necessary to confirm and verify the holder’s vaccination, testing ***OR RECOVERY status...
The Digital Green Certificate will make it easier to exercise that right, also through testing and ***RECOVERY CERTIFICATES...
How will it help to facilitate safe free movement?
The Digital Green Certificate can serve as proof of vaccination, testing ***AND RECOVERY in order to waive restrictions to free movement put in place in a Member State on public health grounds, such as testing or quarantine requirements...
The regulation also introduces some basic principles, for example, setting the maximum validity period of the certificate ***OF RECOVERY at 180 days...
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/qanda_21_1187
THERE’S A TRICK!
***However, the Commission also points out that tests that detect if a person developed antibodies against SARS-CoV-2 - also known as antibodies tests - ***cannot be used to obtain a recovery certificate.
2 July: Schengen Visa Information (EU): All Details on EU COVID-19 Vaccine Passport Revealed: Here’s What You Need to Know
What Is a Recovery Certificate?
Travellers who have recently been infected with COVID-19, and recovered from it, should also be permitted to travel with an EU COVID travel certificate.
“The EU Digital Covid Certificate of recovery confirms that the holder has recovered from a SARS-CoV-2 infection following a positive test. It should be issued no earlier than 11 days after the first positive test,” the Commission explains.
However, the Commission also points out that tests that detect if a person developed antibodies against SARS-CoV-2 - also known as antibodies tests - ***cannot be used to obtain a recovery certificate...
https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/all-details-on-eu-covid-19-passport-revealed-heres-what-you-need-to-know/
There probably is some elaborate test to determine amount of anti-bodies present.
But, why are a minority of Americans scared of this nothing burger covid vaccine? Common sense is lacking is what I conclude. Just think, nearing 200,000,000 Americans are on schedule to be jabbed in just a few weeks. Hospitals are required to report any adverse effects from vaccine to VAERS. Recent count of adverse effects (Death or Serious hospitalization) is running at 0.006% of those jabbed. To be scared of something proven safe by 99.994% borders on some psychotic illness.
I had it before it even had a name, and I have the IgG and IgM antibodies to prove it.
Unfortunately the Red Cross stopped giving your antibody results on June 15.
https://www.redcrossblood.org/donate-blood/dlp/covid-19-antibody-testing.html
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