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Something Sketchy in the Blame Game, Joint Chiefs Chair General Mark Milley, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin and Pentagon Collectively Throwing Biden Under The Bus
https://theconservativetreehouse.com ^ | August 18, 2021 | Sundance

Posted on 08/18/2021 12:59:55 PM PDT by Red Badger

The FUBAR in Afghanistan is so large in scope and failure, the Pentagon appears to be throwing the White House under the bus; and they are being considerably obtuse while doing it…. or are they?

If these reports from Daily Mail and Wall Street Journal are accurate, the Pentagon is claiming that Joint Chief’s Chairman General Mark Milley and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin warned Joe Biden about the pending collapse of Afghanistan if 2,500 troops were removed. However, both Milley and Austin are on record only a few weeks before the collapse saying exactly the opposite.

(Via Wall Street Journal) – In his Monday speech defending America’s chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan, President Biden said he would not shrink from his share of responsibility.

That would include his decision to bring home U.S. troops, which was made against the recommendations of his top military generals and many diplomats, who warned that a hasty withdrawal would undermine security in Afghanistan, several administration and defense officials said.

The president’s top generals, including Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Army Gen. Mark Milley, urged Mr. Biden to keep a force of about 2,500 troops, the size he inherited, while seeking a peace agreement between warring Afghan factions, to help maintain stability. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, who previously served as a military commander in the region, said a full withdrawal wouldn’t provide any insurance against instability.

In a series of meetings leading up to his decision, military and intelligence officials told Mr. Biden that security was deteriorating in Afghanistan, and they expressed concerns both about the capabilities of the Afghan military and the Taliban’s likely ability to take over major Afghan cities.

Other advisers, including Secretary of State Antony Blinken and national security adviser Jake Sullivan, raised the possibility of Taliban attacks on U.S. forces and diplomats as well as the Afghans who for two decades worked alongside them. (read more)

I’m not here to defend Joe Biden, not even close; I believe the man is inept, functionally and cognitively out of touch, and completely illegitimate. However, there’s more in the background context for these (and similar) articles.

The DC “conservative” media appear to be framing these articles to give the illusion of current conflict between the White House and the Pentagon, by conflating statements made long ago (before Biden made the withdrawal announcement in April), with recent positions. The actual statements of Mark Milley and Lloyd Austin to congress only a few weeks ago run directly counter to the claims in the articles. I would advise people not to take these articles by DC media at face value…. they too have an agenda.

Here are Milley and Austin speaking specifically to the situation in Afghanistan shortly before the crisis unfolded. {4 minutes, prompted}

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To: Red Badger

He better stick with what he does best, fondling little girls.


21 posted on 08/18/2021 1:28:42 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: RckyRaCoCo

You can probably remove the /s tag, but they’ll to a double with Kamalamadingdong at the same time.


22 posted on 08/18/2021 1:30:29 PM PDT by mykroar (God speed, President Trump)
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To: BiglyCommentary

Correct. Don Obozo will soon be giving President Jill Biden an offer she can’t refuse. Joe is about to have a debilitating stroke he just doesn’t know it yet. Get with the program Dr. Jill or somehow all of the incriminating shit that’s on Hunter’s laptops will suddenly appear on the front pages of the NYT.


23 posted on 08/18/2021 1:30:59 PM PDT by technically right
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To: Red Badger
...the Pentagon appears to be throwing the White House under the bus;

That would need to be a monstrously big bus.

24 posted on 08/18/2021 1:32:50 PM PDT by ytrebil
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To: technically right

Wilson Presidency 2.0?


25 posted on 08/18/2021 1:34:18 PM PDT by kaktuskid
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To: Red Badger
Formatted for clarity:

Something Sketchy in the Blame Game, Joint Chiefs Chair General Mark Milley, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin and Pentagon Collectively Throwing Biden Under The Bus

August 18, 2021 | Sundance | 418 Comments

The FUBAR in Afghanistan is so large in scope and failure, the Pentagon appears to be throwing the White House under the bus; and they are being considerably obtuse while doing it…. or are they?

If these reports from Daily Mail and Wall Street Journal are accurate, the Pentagon is claiming that Joint Chief’s Chairman General Mark Milley and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin warned Joe Biden about the pending collapse of Afghanistan if 2,500 troops were removed.   However, both Milley and Austin are on record only a few weeks before the collapse saying exactly the opposite.

(Via Wall Street Journal) –  In his Monday speech defending America’s chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan, President Biden said he would not shrink from his share of responsibility.

That would include his decision to bring home U.S. troops, which was made against the recommendations of his top military generals and many diplomats, who warned that a hasty withdrawal would undermine security in Afghanistan, several administration and defense officials said.

The president’s top generals, including Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Army Gen. Mark Milley, urged Mr. Biden to keep a force of about 2,500 troops, the size he inherited, while seeking a peace agreement between warring Afghan factions, to help maintain stability. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, who previously served as a military commander in the region, said a full withdrawal wouldn’t provide any insurance against instability.

In a series of meetings leading up to his decision, military and intelligence officials told Mr. Biden that security was deteriorating in Afghanistan, and they expressed concerns both about the capabilities of the Afghan military and the Taliban’s likely ability to take over major Afghan cities.

Other advisers, including Secretary of State Antony Blinken and national security adviser Jake Sullivan, raised the possibility of Taliban attacks on U.S. forces and diplomats as well as the Afghans who for two decades worked alongside them. (read more)

I’m not here to defend Joe Biden, not even close; I believe the man is inept, functionally and cognitively out of touch, and completely illegitimate.  However, there’s more in the background context for these (and similar) articles.

The DC “conservative” media appear to be framing these articles to give the illusion of current conflict between the White House and the Pentagon, by conflating statements made long ago (before Biden made the withdrawal announcement in April), with recent positions.  The actual statements of Mark Milley and Lloyd Austin to congress only a few weeks ago run directly counter to the claims in the articles.  I would advise people not to take these articles by DC media at face value…. they too have an agenda.

Here are Milley and Austin speaking specifically to the situation in Afghanistan shortly before the crisis unfolded. {4 minutes, prompted}

Austin, Milley testify on Defense budget request | FULL HEARING

Secretary Austin and General Milley did not hold the position that collapse of the Afghanistan government was likely, and did not claim that troops would be needed, and did not claim that Bagram AFB should be kept open.  Their position, as demonstrably evident, was exactly the opposite.

So why is the Wall Street Journal trying to defend the Pentagon from the mess they created, and also throw Biden under the bus?

Joe Biden, General Mark Milley and Defense Secretary Austin are all equally to blame.

The Wall Street Journal appears to be defending the military industrial complex, by separating Biden from Milley and Austin.

Perhaps the DC media are counting on readers not doing their own research and not knowing the full background.

Sketchy.

26 posted on 08/18/2021 1:37:21 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: Red Badger

XiJinBiden... ...and George W. Shrub.
Yes, calling this Bush’s fault IS ACCURATE, at least partially. XiJinBiden sure helped it along, though.

“The religion of peace”. Riiiiight, Shrub. Just like your old man and his, “Read my lips, no new taxes.” Like father, like son.

As my long since passed aunt used to say, “SOSOS” meaning “Same old shite only softer.” Professional politicians lie, as a matter of course. All three, Bush, Shrub and XiJinBiden are/were all professional politicians, ALL part of the Deep State. ALL IN IT FOR THE POWER/MONEY and especially EGO TRIP!

Shrub SHOULD HAVE gone ‘full guns’ in the ‘stan. If he REALLY wanted to ‘nation-build’, after the Taliwhackers were destroyed, he should have executed all that were captured, THEN gone after the WARLORDS. Rinse and repeat. Only THEN could the common people of the ‘stan have had a MODERN, FREE COUNTRY. The only thing the warlords and Taliwhackers understand is STRENGTH. What was demonstrated by the Western powers, was interpreted by then, as WEAKNESS.

What the allies needed was a general like Patton, rather than the ‘perfumed prince’, political hacks that occupy the Pentagon, MOD Whitehall, or 101 Colonel By Drive, or whatever military HQ the ‘allied country’ has.

As Patton said, “No b*&tard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb b*&tard die for his country.” Yes, the Taliwhackers convinced a lot of poor, illiterates to suicide themselves, to get 72 virgins, but the leaders RAN AND HID. A Patton type in 2001-2002, would have resulted in a WesternizING Afghanistan today. Instead, the time machine returns the Afghanis to the 8th century.


27 posted on 08/18/2021 1:48:01 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (Ceterum autem censeo Justinius True-dope-us esse delendam)
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To: Red Badger

Pass the worms Freedo,


28 posted on 08/18/2021 1:48:46 PM PDT by Beagle8U ("Jim Acosta pissed in the press pool.")
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To: Red Badger

Helping set the stage for invoking the 25th amendment...


29 posted on 08/18/2021 1:49:11 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. The Dhimmicraps are ALL Traitors. All of them.)
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To: PubliusMM
Helping set the stage for invoking the 25th amendment...

There will be no 25th Amendment proceedings.

Biden will be stricken with a serious medical condition of undisclosed type and will abruptly resign for reasons of health. It won't even be a lie, just a lot of misdirection.

But they have got to get rid of Harris first. She won't follow directions and is extremely vindictive. A loose cannon they cannot easily control.

It will be a total bait-and-switch with new actors to be named later. Somehow they must blame the turmoil on President Trump and his followers.

I expect they have Top Men working on the problem. Top. Men.

30 posted on 08/18/2021 3:16:15 PM PDT by flamberge (Time has run out. Work with what you've got.)
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To: flamberge
I doubt they want Kamala to be the incumbent President in 2024, but Biden's deterioration may be too obvious to hide pretty soon. Maybe they can force Kamala to select the person they choose for her Vice President. After that they can find some way to force her out of the picture.

If Kamala becomes President, she will no longer have the tie-breaking vote in the Senate, so the new VP would have to be someone who can get at least one Republican vote. But that should not be hard to do. Find someone who has been noisily attacking Trump since 2015 and Romney and Murkowski will vote for that person in a heartbeat.

31 posted on 08/18/2021 3:48:03 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Fredo.................


32 posted on 08/19/2021 4:59:08 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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