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To: zek157

I think we have doctors here on FR who pretty much say this doesn’t happen. All the sick people are unvaccinated, you see. The vaccinated people don’t get sick. And if they do get sick, they certainly don’t end up in an ICU. And if they do end up in an ICU, they certainly don’t die.

It’s odd, huh?


6 posted on 08/18/2021 8:55:27 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We have two Democrat parties. 50% of the US population has no political representation.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I hear that 2 out of 4 statistics are made up right on the spot.


40 posted on 08/18/2021 9:32:50 AM PDT by DesertRhino (A coup government may not claim the protection of the same constitution it overthrew. )
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To: ClearCase_guy

I’m not a doctor but I play one on FR.
Would you believe Holistic Healer?
I watched every episode of General hospital since 1990?


41 posted on 08/18/2021 9:33:35 AM PDT by Leep (Save America. Lock down Joe Biden!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

You know you are going to hell for pointing that out.


49 posted on 08/18/2021 9:39:40 AM PDT by alternatives?
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To: ClearCase_guy; ransomnote; Jane Long; bitt; bagster; numberonepal; Cletus.D.Yokel; Cathi; gas_dr
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3897733

Methods: We studied breakthrough infections among healthcare workers of a major infectious diseases hospital in Vietnam. We collected demographics, vaccination history and results of PCR diagnosis alongside clinical data. We measured SARS-CoV-2 (neutralizing) antibodies at diagnosis, and at week 1, 2 and 3 after diagnosis. We sequenced the viruses using ARTIC protocol.

Findings: Between 11th–25th June 2021 (week 7–8 after dose 2), 69 healthcare workers were tested positive for SARS-CoV-2. 62 participated in the clinical study. 49 were (pre)symptomatic with one requiring oxygen supplementation. All recovered uneventfully. 23 complete-genome sequences were obtained. They all belonged to the Delta variant, and were phylogenetically distinct from the contemporary Delta variant sequences obtained from community transmission cases, suggestive of ongoing transmission between the workers. Viral loads of breakthrough Delta variant infection cases were 251 times higher than those of cases infected with old strains detected between March-April 2020. Time from diagnosis to PCR negative was 8–33 days (median: 21). Neutralizing antibody levels after vaccination and at diagnosis of the cases were lower than those in the matched uninfected controls. There was no correlation between vaccine-induced neutralizing antibody levels and viral loads or the development of symptoms.

Source:https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?blog=Market-Ticker-Nad

His comments on the article:

Reasonable conclusions drawn from this data:

A reasonable hypothesis (but not proved) is that the vaccines are in fact potentiating viral replication via ADE-type effects, specifically given the paper I pointed to yesterday. That is the act of encouraging or even forcing medical workers to take the jabs is leading to higher viral loads and thus greater infectiousness -- that is, greater risk to patients rather than less.

59 posted on 08/18/2021 10:26:19 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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