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Ron Paul: Kabul has fallen - but don't blame Biden
Mises.org ^ | Aug 16 | Former Rep. Ron Paul

Posted on 08/16/2021 1:39:59 PM PDT by RandFan

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To: SaxxonWoods
Every event falls under his umbrella and goes through his prism. He’s not a bad guy, he’s just useless.

Accurate.
61 posted on 08/16/2021 2:50:31 PM PDT by larrytown ( There must be a reckoning - resignations, firings and courts martial, to start with.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

The higher ups were told to not put troops in Afganistan or only for a short time...by the special forces that chased Ban Ladin out..

Horse Soilders..the book


62 posted on 08/16/2021 2:55:05 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: usafa92

If it had been recognized in the beginning that it was not winnable, there would have been no exit, in triumph or defeat.

That is what Ron Paul is trying to get people to recognize, and he is right.


63 posted on 08/16/2021 2:58:57 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: RandFan

With 1-4.

And I do think Biden had a lot to do with it.

He’s the president, officially the Commander-in-Chief.


64 posted on 08/16/2021 2:59:49 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…. )
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To: RandFan

We could have gotten the same results if we had left in 2002 or 2005. Or 2011, after Bin Laden was dead. Most effective if we had left in 2002, after scorching and salting the poppy fields.


65 posted on 08/16/2021 3:06:00 PM PDT by Bernard (The very best scientific articles always contain this phrase: “My personal intuition has been…”)
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To: Arlis

Same here, the one thing from the Bush 1 Presidency to Obama Presidency that was a constant was interventionist and regime change foreign policy. Not 1 iota worth of difference.

Trump will whether his critics will admit it or not was correct that Wars of regime change are not worth it. It is always someone else’s kid who has to go fight these darn wars, never the elites and foreign policy leaders of “BOTH parties who constantly get the USA into these regime change wars.

Where Biden screwed up was not already starting the evacuation of US citizens and Afghan allies who served as scouts and translators, and their families, for the US Milatary


66 posted on 08/16/2021 3:13:19 PM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: RandFan

I blame Biden for how it ended.

67 posted on 08/16/2021 3:15:19 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: RandFan

Like Biden, he’s confusing the issue. It’s not a question of whether or not we should leave; it’s a question of HOW it was done. And the blame falls squarely on Joe Biden and those who committed fraud to give him the presidency.


68 posted on 08/16/2021 3:25:07 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: RandFan
The US war on Afghanistan was not lost yesterday in Kabul. It was lost the moment it shifted from a limited mission to apprehend those who planned the attack on 9/11 to an exercise in regime change and nation-building.

He's probably right. The odds of turning Afghanistan into a decent country have always been slim.

69 posted on 08/16/2021 3:27:56 PM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem by far is that most of the news media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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To: RandFan
It absolutely Biden's fault and the Paultards for pushing to get us out without assurances the Taliban would overrun the country.

Paultards are isolationists that want to bring back Bill Clinton's foreign policy and that was as big as disaster as the neo-con foreign policy.

70 posted on 08/16/2021 3:41:49 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: RandFan

RON PAUL SAID “9/11 BOMBINGS” DURING HIS FAREWELL SPEECH 10 YEARS AGO.


71 posted on 08/16/2021 3:56:12 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Free Republic: The Internet's 1st social media platform. Since 1996.)
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To: RandFan

What a pathetic response.


72 posted on 08/16/2021 3:58:24 PM PDT by mulligan (an En bbnnEeThe to)
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To: Kazan

The Taliban are there. Deal with it.

Taliban would not exist without popular tribal support.

You clearly know as much about Afghanistan as Gen. Milley i.e nothing.


73 posted on 08/16/2021 4:00:49 PM PDT by RandFan
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To: Theoria

Last year of his 1st term is considered incident free by the military. Practically all of 2020.

It is true with respect to the Taliban. The truth is the Taliban feared consequences if they acted against the Afghan government.


74 posted on 08/16/2021 4:02:25 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Bernard

I would not be opposed to that though I think when they announced OBLwas dead why didn’t Obama bring them all home?

You know the answer: He was in the pockets of the contractors as well.

Took a president like Trump to end this.


75 posted on 08/16/2021 4:05:27 PM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan
The reason the US lost is because it allowed/protected the practice of Bacha bazi (Male-to-male pedophilia, yes folks our own government, Bush administration all the way through Trump the Biden).

Even God has vengeance for the poor victims that our government looked away from. Guess what, the Taliban hates that practice too. Once Bush admin captured provinces of Afghan the powers that be reinstituted that "practice" as a means of appeasement. Taliban hated that. Clown World, our US culture is f'up more that certain aspects of the Taliban it seems..
76 posted on 08/16/2021 4:11:59 PM PDT by rollo tomasi
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To: BookmanTheJanitor
Bush brought back man-boy anal sex Thursdays (When Allah was sleeping). Which is worse, hanging flags or actively promoting pedophilia (Which every admin did since the Enduring Freedom).
77 posted on 08/16/2021 4:17:17 PM PDT by rollo tomasi
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To: Hostage

2020 we lost guys to insiders. Just like now, that is the way of the rags. The military recognizes their sacrifices, as do I.


78 posted on 08/16/2021 4:23:51 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
There is plenty of blame to go around.

But this ongoing disaster is all on Joe Biden.

79 posted on 08/16/2021 4:23:56 PM PDT by KC_Lion
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To: RandFan

Sould like Ron’s just havin the “soft bigotry of low expectations”.


80 posted on 08/16/2021 5:13:44 PM PDT by Theophilus (Dems fear fear. Christians fear God. )
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