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"Despite the fact that multiple medical authorities predicted, told us, and hoped, ADE would not impact Covid-19 vaccines, data from the study indicates it has done just that."
1 posted on 08/16/2021 12:31:42 PM PDT by Qiviut
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2 posted on 08/16/2021 12:34:21 PM PDT by PMAS (Vote with your wallets, there are 80 million of us - No Amazon, No Chy-Na made )
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Now they tell US what they always knew!

Like masks, they KNOW they aint worth a chip!


3 posted on 08/16/2021 12:39:52 PM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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Reason # 413 I won’t be getting this experimental symptom suppressor


4 posted on 08/16/2021 12:43:16 PM PDT by V_TWIN
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Atkinson covid.


5 posted on 08/16/2021 12:46:01 PM PDT by Bell Bouy II
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Here is the study from the link in the article... Infection-enhancing anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibodies recognize both the original Wuhan/D614G strain and Delta variants. A potential risk for mass vaccination ?

"In conclusion, ADE may occur in people receiving vaccines based on the original Wuhan strain spike sequence (either mRNA or viral vectors) and then exposed to a Delta variant. Although this potential risk has been cleverly anticipated before the massive use of Covid-19 vaccines6, the ability of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies to mediate infection enhancement in vivo has never been formally demonstrated. However, although the results obtained so far have been rather reassuring1, to the best of our knowledge ADE of Delta variants has not been specifically assessed. Since our data indicate that Delta variants are especially well recognized by infection enhancing antibodies targeting the NTD, the possibility of ADE should be further investigated as it may represent a potential risk for mass vaccination during the current Delta variant pandemic. In this respect, second generation vaccines7 with spike protein formulations lacking structurally-conserved ADE-related epitopes should be considered.">

7 posted on 08/16/2021 12:47:15 PM PDT by DannyTN
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ADE can make vaccinated people more susceptible to serious infection from the virus

So, like, 1 in 10? 1 in 10,000 cases? This article is useless conjecture.

8 posted on 08/16/2021 12:48:03 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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No ADE has been observed with COVID-19. The article itself says so.

In other words, fearmongering of a “what-if” scenario which hasn’t been seen in over 18 months of direct observation.


9 posted on 08/16/2021 12:49:10 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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https://cdn.pfizer.com/pfizercom/2020-11/C4591001_Clinical_Protocol_Nov2020.pdf

https://www.modernatx.com/sites/default/files/mRNA-1273-P301-Protocol.pdf

Guess that's why vaxxes are usually tested for years.

10 posted on 08/16/2021 12:50:46 PM PDT by Pollard
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Self ping for later.


11 posted on 08/16/2021 12:56:31 PM PDT by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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Just can’t be true. CDC and FDA and xiden say the vaccine is perfectly safe.

Must be lies being told by terrorists.

DHS will take care of them.


15 posted on 08/16/2021 1:13:24 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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Last week they said the Flu Shot was better than these fake vaccines


17 posted on 08/16/2021 1:19:45 PM PDT by butlerweave
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It’s funny how things like ADE, transmission by vaccinated people, breakthrough infections, etc. go from “disinformation” and “conspiracy theories” to admitted by the CDC in 1-3 months over and over.

We’ll see how long it takes them to admit this is true.


18 posted on 08/16/2021 1:23:34 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods ( comment might be sarcasm, or not. It depends. Often I'm not sure either.)
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FOOBAR - FRANKENSTEIN Organism Outside Boundaries And Research


19 posted on 08/16/2021 1:29:26 PM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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24 posted on 08/16/2021 1:43:24 PM PDT by sauropod (Time is like quicksilver, smearing the years... - Bill Nelson)
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“The health officials state that the vaccinated patients who are getting Covid are getting milder forms than they would have if they had not been vaccinated. However, that is a case-by-case assumption and is impossible to prove.”

The CDC is making this claim anyway. The MSM allows it despite it being misinformation.


26 posted on 08/16/2021 1:43:36 PM PDT by alternatives?
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Sounds like natural immunity is the way to go.


27 posted on 08/16/2021 1:52:07 PM PDT by bray (Hating Whites is racist)
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” Inasmuch as neutralizing antibodies overwhelm facilitating antibodies, ADE is not a concern.”

“this potential risk has been cleverly anticipated before the massive use of Covid-19 vaccines6, the ability of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies to mediate infection enhancement in vivo has never been formally demonstrated. However, although the results obtained so far have been rather reassuring, to the best of our knowledge ADE of Delta variants has not been specifically assessed.”

coulda woulda shoulda

Delta was born in October 2020 in India, well before vaccines were developed much less distributed in India. ADE in Delta hasn’t been ‘specifically assessed’ because nobody’s reporting it as an issue. Those who have been vaccinated and get infected with Delta, generally have mild infections, depending on individual antibody production.

Are there people who get reinfected twice after vaccination ? Has anyone seen any stories? The bigger danger is the virus itself mutating its immune escape devices like it’s been doing all along.

Against Delta:

Pfitzer (July 21 New England Journal of Medicine) 88% effective against hospitalization, down from 93% ; in the UK 93% effective down from 94%; Scotland 79% (Lancet); Canada 87%; Israel 67% and 93% against death, adjusted in late July to 44% against symptoms but still 88% hospitalization and 93% death. France (July 8 study), one dose 13%, two doses 94%

Moderna: Canada 70% one dose 95% two doses down from 97%

AZ - England 79% and 96% (Public Health England); one dose 13% two doses 96% (July 8 study)

J&J - one dose - 87% effective hospitalization, especially robust against Delta (phase 3 Ensemble study) across all demographics; 71% and 96% (South Africa Sisonke study 500K subjects)

Novavax - (recombinant nanoparticle vaccine) England 89% overall with 86% against alpha and 96% against all other variants


30 posted on 08/16/2021 2:27:31 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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>>>>>> On the other hand, most scientific studies on this topic say those who have recovered from Covid-19 have natural immunity that does not display the same problem, and appears to be superior to that, so far, of that provided by the vaccines. <<<<


31 posted on 08/16/2021 2:28:00 PM PDT by M-cubed (The MSM is now the 4th Branch of Government.....)
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And they named it the delta variant just to keep the fear narrative going.


41 posted on 08/16/2021 3:04:12 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…. )
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Antibody-Dependent Enhancement Risk for SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine Developers

“Because if the gun is jumped, and a vaccine is widely distributed that is disease enhancing, that would be worse than actually not doing any vaccination at all.”

53 posted on 08/17/2021 4:40:11 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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