Would Medical Power of Attorney Help to Protect Some Family Members In THE DAYS OF COVID, and a strategy suggestion for getting Covid treatment otherwise denied

8/14/2021 | vanity

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In the Days of Covid, maybe some family members need to identify other family members as having medical power of attorney.

I agree with those who warn those ill with Covid to try to stay out of the hospital (e.g., Dr. Zelenko). The CDC's protocol drives treatment, often over the objections of family members.

In a recent video, Kate Dalley recounted her and her husband's personal decisions to decline a ventilator and instead insist on specific treatments recommended by Amercia's Frontline Doctors when her husband became ill.

I'll post the FR thread to Kate Dalley's story below, not as a recommendation that all should mimic her personal decisions, but to explore what kinds of decisions you may be called upon to make, how diligent you may need to be, what limitations you might encounter, and some strategies you may want to consider.

Our First Hand ICU Story - What is ACTUALLY Killing People In The Hospital [Includes my notes on video,post #1 lists treatments that helped her husband recover] (freerepublic.com)

When she explained they wanted to wave the hospital's recommended ventilator and use other treatments instead, doctors told her she could not make that decision for her husband. She knew that she and her husband agreed with her request. Had he been too sick to state his preference, it may have been impossible to get the treatments America's Frontline Doctors recommended he have, because she could be barred from visiting him, and if he was unresponsive, then the hospital could use 'CDC guidelines" which they specifically wanted to avoid.

Others on FR have told cautionary tales about hospitalization for Covid. Family members can be barred from visiting the patient at all (isolation) and therefore cannot monitor or participate in requiring appropriate treatment. The 'contagious' patient may not allowed to leave medical isolation, creating what some describe as the conditions of 'medical kidnap.'

I'm wondering if some family members might benefit from assigning medical power of attorney to others in their family in hopes that this will allow family to direct the medical protocol they want used for Covid. It's no doubt a complicated decision and won't work for some, but perhaps others would have an easier time directing desired treatment in the event that a family member should become ill enough to require high-flow oxygen or other intervention only available in a hospital.

In Kate Dalley's story linked above, I read that if you have trouble getting a hospitalized family member the treatment they need for Covid, you can explain that if they can't get the treatment you want for them in the hospital, you will take them to hospice. I wondered what that meant and tonight I think I found a possible answer on another thread:

To: T-Bird45

My hospice nurse friends explained that once a person goes into hospice, all med equipment and meds are available..whatever the patient wants or needs.

We found this to be true with my Dad. Toward the end of his life he struggled to breathe, and had pulse ox readings in the 80s. They would send him thru ER, admit him, patch him back up to where his readings were “acceptable” and send him home. He “did not qualify” for home oxygen. He would end up back in the ER two days later going thru the same process (Hours in the ER, test for Covid, same labs run two days prior, admit..send home.) It was infuriating

When we brought him home to hospice care, the 02 generator was delivered before the transport even got him home.

45 posted on 8/12/2021, 9:41:36 AM by Mygirlsmom (Back after a long hiatus. Now mygrandkidsgrandma)

 

My hospice nurse friends explained that once a person goes into hospice, all med equipment and meds are available..whatever the patient wants or needs.

We found this to be true with my Dad. Toward the end of his life he struggled to breathe, and had pulse ox readings in the 80s. They would send him thru ER, admit him, patch him back up to where his readings were “acceptable” and send him home. He “did not qualify” for home oxygen. He would end up back in the ER two days later going thru the same process (Hours in the ER, test for Covid, same labs run two days prior, admit..send home.) It was infuriating

When we brought him home to hospice care, the 02 generator was delivered before the transport even got him home.

[The Pack Knight]

Careful with do-it-yourself lawyering, though. Medical and other “durable” powers of attorney must conform to a specific statutory form. Generally, and agent can only do what the principal can do, so your agent’s authority to act ends the moment you become incapacitated unless the POA satisfies the statute.

[SgtHooper]

And, it cannot be overstated to ONLY grant a POA to someone or those who can be trusted to act according to your final wishes!!

[Faith65]

Here are some links that are/have been helpful:

Dr. Zelenko - go to “protocols” tab on website:
https://vladimirzelenkomd.com/

FLCCC (Dr. Pierre Kory)- go to “protocols” tab on website::
https://covid19criticalcare.com/

AAPS - see ‘home based COVID treatment’:
https://aapsonline.org/

All the protocols will mention zinc - just taking zinc does not get it INTO the cells to prevent viral replication, you need an ‘ionophore’ to get it in - here’s an article on that:
How to Improve Zinc Uptake to Boost Immune Health
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/04/joseph-mercola/how-to-improve-zinc-uptake-to-boost-immune-health/

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