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Is it actually a "divide between the vaccinated and unvaccinated"?

Or is it really a divide between authoritarians and everyone else?

Hard to believe that everyone who is vaccinated supports vaccine mandates.

1 posted on 08/13/2021 10:46:58 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

It appears that one side effect of the vaccines is they turn previously normal folks into raving fascists.

Of course not all vaxxed folks get this side effect, it depends on their prior mental health conditions.

;-)


2 posted on 08/13/2021 10:49:41 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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That is a good point. I also think that some of the most adamant mandate pushers, are those that at the back of their minds worry they may have some lasting damage from the vaccine and want to have others in the same risk pool as they are now in.

For full disclosure, I consider the fear of COVID and the fear of Vaccine danger greatly exaggerated for both. I am just putting up a theory for the screeching mandate lovers.


3 posted on 08/13/2021 10:50:01 AM PDT by Codeflier (Please stop calling these violent totalitarian collectivist Democrats, liberals. )
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Punitive actions against the class of people called "unvaccinated" is an illegal bill of attainder, prohibited by the states in Article I Section 10, and by Congress in Article I Section 9.

-PJ

4 posted on 08/13/2021 10:50:30 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (* LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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The unvaccinated I know are fine with their decision. It’s the vaccinated who are angry, as you can see right here every day.


5 posted on 08/13/2021 10:51:14 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods ( comment might be sarcasm, or not. It depends. Often I'm not sure either.)
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Seems like a State’s Rights issue.

I can be utterly contemptuous of unvaccinated people, regarding them as no better than drunk drivers or terrorists, but if the Constitution doesn’t explicitly mention it, there is no right for the Federal Government to mandate or prohibit it.

Likewise, I can loath as totalitarian nutcases anyone who would get the jab or wear a mask, but it’s up to the state government since the Constitution doesn’t say anything.

As with anything from abortion to drugs, let the states decide and move (or get involved and change things) if you don’t like it.


6 posted on 08/13/2021 10:52:38 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (NUKE MECCA. ABOLISH THE DEA, IRS, AND ATF)
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They (the gov’t) are denying our right to choose. Information from both sides are confusing.


7 posted on 08/13/2021 10:52:58 AM PDT by SkyDancer (I Identify As Vaccinated - non-injected. Jab Me Not)
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Agreed, definitely the latter. Do we know if there’s any class action suits being filed that people can join? A friend’s son is starting his freshman year at a liberal arts college and they are pushing (no mandate yet) the vaccine and if not, you need to be tested. But...they are NOT testing the vaccinated and THEIR the ones getting sick!!! Total discrimination. Don’t know how to fight back yet.


8 posted on 08/13/2021 10:53:37 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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If the Statists want 100% vaccination, they should produce a 100% effective vaccine [with 0% side effects].


10 posted on 08/13/2021 10:53:40 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Critical Marx Theory is The SOLUTION....)
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“Hard to believe that everyone who is vaccinated supports vaccine mandates.”

I’d say not everyone, that’s too absolute. But in my experience, most who are vaccinated support mandates. They are convinced that the unvaccinated represent a threat to their health. (Figure that one out).


11 posted on 08/13/2021 10:53:53 AM PDT by brownsfan (For conservatives, we have taxation without representation.)
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That’s a funny story. We’ve been saying that this was the real intent from the start.

I’ve always said that liberals need to be dragged off to death camps before they finally learn.


12 posted on 08/13/2021 10:54:14 AM PDT by Jonty30 (My superpower is setting people up for failure, without meaning to. )
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Those involved in this genocide LIE about the
virus, the DNA operating system [”vaccine”],
and the definition of science.

Only censorship, fraud, the MSM and the CCP invasion
of the Republic, has enabled them to continue.


13 posted on 08/13/2021 10:55:53 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Tuitio Fidei et Obsequium Pauperum)
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I plead the 10th amendment


14 posted on 08/13/2021 10:58:42 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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They wanted to play game and follow “Flat Earth” science and now it’s own.

I Won’t forget their contrived act of moral relativism....based on fiction...


16 posted on 08/13/2021 11:00:45 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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Division is the plan.


18 posted on 08/13/2021 11:02:15 AM PDT by CodeToad
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They just keep pushing people. From my perspective I’d say get ready for a lot of trouble and violence as I am becoming confident this is exactly what they’re pushing for.


22 posted on 08/13/2021 11:05:56 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Didn’t Joe say 500 million Americans were vaccinated so that should be everyone ,LOL


23 posted on 08/13/2021 11:07:21 AM PDT by butlerweave
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It’s hard to tell from only personal experience, but in my case, hardly anyone I know supports mandates or these passports.

There was a lot of enthusiasm in some local government circles, but they seem to be proceeding with extreme caution, so this looks like a good time to push back.

And I don’t care about the vaccine wars here, or anywhere else. If you want the shot, take the shot. If you don’t want it, don’t take it. The crazy shouting on both sides really is beside the point, it’s a matter of whether we’re going to go along with this “show your papers” mandate or not.


25 posted on 08/13/2021 11:10:07 AM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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The fascists are creating two classes of people, and telling one to hate the other. This is something that they are very skilled at doing! Black vs White, gay vs normal, muz vs Christian, etc.

Once they have divided us, they teach us to direct all the anger and blame on the other.

The Non-vaxd are already being blamed for what’s happening. And they are being excluded more and more. What will happen when the unvaxd are kept from EVERYTHING - stores, public buildings, transportation, restaurants? Will they go out into the streets to revolt? (I doubt it). Will the politicians then order them mowed down?


27 posted on 08/13/2021 11:11:34 AM PDT by I want the USA back (We have more to fear from our government than from the bug that the chicoms made for us. )
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This short video explains a lot of what we’re facing: Mass Psychosis

https://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=Dq6yu&m=3miO31IVyw6cBfA&b=2BWscpR_8dG6vuY.WhJvuA


30 posted on 08/13/2021 11:15:14 AM PDT by laplata
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I’m vaccinated as is most of my family but not my 16 year old daughter. She and I (and her dad) are trying to hold out for a better vaccine for her than is currently available. Only the Pfizer is available for her age group and it barely works against the variant anyway. Every day though I tell her (so she can be informed) of the additional restrictions she faces by remaining unvaccinated.

She’s in CA and in school so if she’s “exposed” to a case she will have to miss 10 days of sports, even if testing negative and even if symptomless. If she were vaccinated, she would miss no sports.

Now she can’t eat in SF restaurants (no loss). She can’t go indoors anywhere in LA. She can’t visit her Grandmother in the hospital next week getting cancer treatment. Biden is thinking of interstate travel restrictions. Luckily she already returned from summer trips to NC and OR. The squeeze tightens daily. She’ll definitely need it to go to her brother’s wedding in the UK in 2022 and to college in CA in 2023. But we were/are trying to hold off as long as possible. We might be folding soon.

For her the vaccine is only needed for access reasons, not health reasons. Very sad times for our nation.


31 posted on 08/13/2021 11:16:17 AM PDT by olivia3boys
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