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NASA Is Trying to Figure Out How to Kill the International Space Station
Futurism ^ | VICTOR TANGERMANN

Posted on 08/12/2021 3:35:52 PM PDT by BenLurkin

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To: shanover

You watched too much StarTrek. LOL


41 posted on 08/12/2021 4:57:38 PM PDT by dforest (huh)
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To: BenLurkin

Drop it on China as payment for COVID-19.


42 posted on 08/12/2021 5:07:10 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: BenLurkin

why burn it up in Earth’s atmosphere? send it to Mercury where it can orbit the Sun and send back pretty pictures


43 posted on 08/12/2021 5:08:00 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: Blood of Tyrants

ISS is at 7.6 to 7.7 kms minimum earth C3 velocity is 11.19 kms you have to add at least 3.49kms not counting gravity losses being deep in the gravity well to climb out of it. Using the very best chemical engines available namely the SSME H2/O2 former shuttle engines with a vacuum ISP of 452 seconds it would take well over a thousand tonnes of prop to get that much Delta V. Starship tanker version in fully reusable mode is billed to be 150 tonnes per trip with 250 per expendable mode. So at least a dozen fully loaded starship tankers to make that kinda Delta V even possible but remember all that fuel needs tanks and with a tank weight fraction of even a gallon tank like 2% you are not accelerating 450 tonnes to C3 you have to take the tanks and the SSME engines with you just those tanks and the engines will add a other hundred tonnes of mass needed to be injected to C3. In short no way with current technology could the ISS be injected to solar orbit let alone the transfer orbit to Mars.

“An average Hohmann transfer orbit to Mars requires 259 days and a delta-v of 3,9 km/s.”

This is in addition to the minimum to get to C3 escape just getting to escape put you in orbit around the sun at the same distance as earth. You need additional energy to climb out of the Sun’s gravity well in this case 3.49 more kms and another thousand plus tonnes of fuel.


44 posted on 08/12/2021 5:15:10 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: BenLurkin

NASA is useless. Billionaires are actually pioneers. Elon Musk. Jeff Bezos.


45 posted on 08/12/2021 5:20:02 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: JD_UTDallas

Yep. And fuel has mass that must be accelerated, too. It’s just dead weight until it is burned. It’s kind of a vicious cycle. You need more fuel to accelerate it but the more you add, the more you need.

Bezos has a good idea in launching rockets from an aircraft flying at high altitude because I am sure that the amount of fuel required to get a rocket TO 50,000 feet has to be in the tens of tons (at least). I’m no rocket scientist (although I have been to the Huntsville Space ad Rocket Center and got a t-shirt that says so) but I understand basic physics and F=mA.


46 posted on 08/12/2021 5:26:51 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (“Unlimited power in the hands of limited people always leads to cruelty.” ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn)
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To: BenLurkin

They should push it outward and make it the temporary station between earth and the moon, like I want to say at lagrange 2...?


47 posted on 08/12/2021 5:42:36 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Liaison

Agreed.


48 posted on 08/12/2021 5:54:51 PM PDT by TheDon (Resist the usurpers)
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To: BenLurkin

Inject it with the vaccine.


49 posted on 08/12/2021 6:21:39 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Republican politicans love being in office, Democrat politicians love being in power.)
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To: BenLurkin

We’ve spent and EASY $100 Billion on the Space Station.

Just think of all the wonderful things we could have instead, if Congress could have spent that money on what this country REALLY needs.

hmmm....come to think of it, never mind.


50 posted on 08/12/2021 6:55:33 PM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: Revel

CAPITAL IDEA!~


51 posted on 08/12/2021 7:00:36 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Falconspeed

We lost 2 out of 5 biggest pos ever


52 posted on 08/12/2021 7:07:58 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom Hi Dad)
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To: BenLurkin

Actually, I’ve seen some articles about sending the Space Station up high enough where it’s pretty much clear of space debris and also high enough to not fall back to Earth...roughly 1000 miles about the Earth’s surface. Could stay there pretty much for hundreds of years, and generations in the future could easily visit it. Far less fuel that trying to send it further from Earth.


53 posted on 08/12/2021 7:12:24 PM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: BenLurkin

Switch the power source to Tesla batteries. Then it won’t be long before it catches fire and burns, leaving nothing but ash for re-entry.


54 posted on 08/12/2021 10:04:27 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: hanamizu

Those of us old enough all did. The movie 2001 A Space Odyessy, shot in 1968,


Meanwhile, NASA killed Project Orion in 1964 - whose motto was “Mars by 1965, Saturn by 1970”


55 posted on 08/13/2021 4:35:30 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: BenLurkin
More on the ISS US replacement by Axiom Space

NASA selects Axiom Space to build commercial space station segment
by Tobias Corbett - January 27, 2020

56 posted on 08/13/2021 4:37:21 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: BenLurkin

Stuff it like a time capsule and nudge it to float out to space.


57 posted on 08/13/2021 4:40:43 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: hanamizu
"The movie 2001 A Space Odyessy, shot in 1968, had an orbiting space station, several moon bases and the capability to fly astronauts to Jupiter by the turn of the 21st century. It’s been nearly a half century since a man has walked on the moon. And don’t get me started about flying cars!"

Yeah, but the fictional HAL 9000 had nowhere near the capabilities of Hunter Biden's laptop.

58 posted on 08/13/2021 4:42:56 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: BobL
Just think of all the wonderful things we could have instead, if Congress could have spent that money on what this country REALLY needs.

Just think of all the wonderful things we could have instead, if Congress could have spent that money on what this country REALLY needs.NEVER CONFISCATED OUR WEALTH in the first place.

59 posted on 08/13/2021 8:12:58 AM PDT by bassmaner (He y commies: I'm a white male, and guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere!)
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To: BenLurkin

Target practice for the new phasers.


60 posted on 08/13/2021 9:12:41 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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