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To: goodnesswins

“Vit K is necessary if you take D3”

I asked my doctor about that. He says there are no medical studies showing that. I searched and couldn’t find anything about Vit K and uptakes of D3. Do you have any papers or evidence of that?


4 posted on 08/09/2021 6:42:25 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Criminal democrats kill babies. Do you think anything else is a problem for them?” ~ joma89)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Vitamin k helps deal with the calcium. Tell him to google the words along with the word studies...lolol. He will find the studies.

I have had several drs prescribe a vitamin d hammer and be completely clueless about the calcium issue

I had an expensive heart scan. I was shocked at the results. I am a poster child for bad habits and risk factors. My heart should have plaque all over..but only had a very small lesion. I have an extra
branch in the heart so maybe that helped.


6 posted on 08/09/2021 6:53:58 PM PDT by RummyChick (To President Trump: https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3923111/posts)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

You need a new doctor if he can’t do a simple PubMed search.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5613455/


9 posted on 08/09/2021 7:10:34 PM PDT by meatloaf
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Just my personal opinion and everybody has one, so feel free to ignore mine. I think you should get a second opinion, and do your own research in addition.

Doctors have not had much education in nutrition, if any, and are ignorant of the impact of diet on health. They go by what they were taught in med school, which is mostly “which big pharma drug for what chronic health failure”.

Your Doctor, in my humble opinion, hasn’t done due diligence and studied the importance of Vit K1, K2, and who should take which depending on their particular health problems.

Educate yourself, and don’t count on a busy Doctor who doesn’t have the time nor energy after a full day’s practice to sit down and learn what he didn’t get taught in med school years ago.

Unless, of course, you like to pay a lot for drugs with horrific side effects to treat your diet-related chronic diseases, and endure the consequences (that usually involve more drugs bringing their own awful side effects.

I am not picking on you, for I am now in my 78th year, and am dealing with my own problems coming from following the stupid diet pyramid advice. Look up the value of Vit. K2, and the lack of it causing calcium to be deposited in all the wrong places.

Please know, I do not want to start a back-and-forth argument about who is right and who is wrong on the relationship between diet and health. You get to choose who you will follow and will be stuck with the consequences if you choose the wrong guru.


11 posted on 08/09/2021 7:38:54 PM PDT by jacquej ("You cannot have a conservative government with a liberal culture." (Mark Steyn))
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

https://www.k-vitamins.com/

Read the cardiac manifesto.


14 posted on 08/09/2021 8:09:41 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (“Fraud vitiates everything.” )
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Search for “K2 D3” (without quotes). LOTS of articles.


15 posted on 08/09/2021 8:27:43 PM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: ProtectOurFreedom; ConservativeMind
There is a reference section at the end of articles that provide research articles.

https://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2016/11/vitamin-k2
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Numerous studies have demonstrated that people with higher intakes of vitamin K2 have a reduced risk for cardiovascular disease.3-5 Intrigued by this connection, Polish researchers from the Medical University at Lodz teamed up with researchers from Maastricht University in the Netherlands and Poland’s International Science and Health Foundation to determine if vitamin K2 supplementation could reduce the progression of existing atherosclerosis.6

The scientists evaluated the progression of atherosclerosis in a group of 42 patients with chronic kidney disease.6 These patients were ideal for this type of study because they are known to experience a rapid reduction in bone mineral density (a measure of bone strength) as a result of calcium losses from bone.7,8 They are also subject to equally excessive deposits of calcium in tissues where it doesn’t belong—particularly in the walls of major arteries.9

For the study, the subjects were divided into two groups. One group received vitamin K2 (90 mcg per day) plus vitamin D3 (400 IU per day). The second group received only vitamin D3 (400 IU per day).6

After nine months, it was already evident that the subjects taking the combination of vitamins K2 and D3 experienced a slower progression of the Common Carotid Intima Media Thickness, which is a good indicator of atherosclerosis, as well as a predictor of cardiovascular episodes and death. Specifically, the thickness of the carotid (major neck) arteries increased by 13.73% in the group taking vitamin D3, but in the group taking both vitamins, it only increased by 6.32%.6 Remember that the group of subjects in this study have a tendency for an increased carotid intima media thickness as a result of calcium losses from bone.

In addition, subjects taking the combination of vitamins K2 and D3 showed a reduction in carotid artery calcification score in all patients except those with the highest scores at baseline.6 This indicates that calcium was staying in the bones, where it belongs, and out of the arteries.

These results clearly indicated that vitamin K2 does indeed reduce the progression of atherosclerosis.6"...Snip

See the entire article at link

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Also, since K2 is being discussed:

https://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2021/2/vitamin-k-builds-new-bone

"Vitamin K2’s Heart Benefits

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"Vitamin K2 promotes new bone growth in part by increasing calcification, the buildup of calcium deposits, in the bone.

In soft tissues, calcification can be dangerous. In blood vessels, for example, it leads to the buildup of atherosclerotic plaque associated with cardiovascular disease.

Research has shown that while vitamin K2 causes beneficial calcification in bones, it prevents harmful calcification in soft tissues, including blood vessels.44,45 This occurs because it activates matrix Gla protein, which inhibits calcification of blood vessels.

For this reason, vitamin K2 may be protective against cardiovascular disease.46

Anyone taking warfarin, a powerful anti-coagulant, should consult a physician before deciding to take any form of vitamin K.

Warfarin functions by blocking vitamin K activity in the body. Those taking warfarin are told to restrict vitamin K intake even from healthy vegetables. Newer drugs like Eliquis®, Pradaxa,®, and Xarelto® provide anticoagulant effects without the need to restrict vitamin K intake."...Snip

See the entire article at link

16 posted on 08/09/2021 8:52:44 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

https://www.inspire.com/groups/national-osteoporosis-foundation/discussion/new-book-just-out-a-lot-of-good-info/

Dr. Jonathan Wright has been our doctor...

Then this

https://www.lovelifesupplements.co.uk/blogs/love-life-health-blog/why-it-is-important-to-take-vitamin-d3-with-vitamin-k2


17 posted on 08/09/2021 8:57:00 PM PDT by goodnesswins (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution." -- Saul Alinksy)
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