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Question for anyone in maeical field
Me | brianr10

Posted on 08/09/2021 7:29:06 AM PDT by brianr10

My Dr. put me on a statin even though my cholesterol was only 177. She said they have a new formula they use that uses your age, weight, and some other parameters that indicated I was at an elevated risk for a heart attack. I asked her what would happen If I lost 30 lbs, could I skip the statins, she seemed to indicate yes. I am 5'9''and 205. Is anyone familiar with this new formula?


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: cholesterol; dsj03; maeical; spelchek; statins
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To: mmichaels1970; brianr10

Oh yeah and the price at COSTCO is WAY cheaper than what my amazon link says. COSTCO sells the keto bread for about $4/loaf. Still kinda high, but worth it when packing a sandwich.


21 posted on 08/09/2021 8:12:19 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: brianr10

Crazy question I know, but have you asked your doctor?


22 posted on 08/09/2021 8:15:26 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA (No. I am not a doctor nor have I ever played one on TV. The MD in my screen name stands for Maryland)
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To: brianr10

Look into the keto diet.

The hardest part of keto, for us, was giving up sugar, but there are tons of great tasting sugar free dessert alternatives, today.

After a few weeks, we weren’t even craving sweet desserts, any longer.

If we were...we’d have a bowl of berries and lightly sweetened, homemade whipped cream, for dessert.

Good luck!


23 posted on 08/09/2021 8:15:47 AM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation.)
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To: brianr10

Not in the medical field, but I am familiar with the new formula. It is called “sell more drugs”. My wife’s doctor went on vacation. Her “temp” replacement sent in a prescription for statins without telling my wife, or even mentioning it. They just showed up ready for pick up with her other normal meds.

My wife has PKD and statins are a no no “risk” for kidney patients who already have declining kidney function. She called and her numbers were only “borderline”. My wife’s regular doctor and her kidney doctor both were livid about it. Told us we did the right thing by not picking them up and not starting them.

I now truly believe that they will push anything because they probably own stock in the company that makes them. This money before true concern for human life has gone viral and all trust is now gone.


24 posted on 08/09/2021 8:15:52 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: brianr10

if i can do it you can do it. i kicked cola and cookies and pastries, very little bread, work around carbs change your life...live longer!

low carb thin sliced bread if you must.
now if i want a sweet i eat a baked potato with butter or con on the cob both high in carbs but have fiber for lower net carbs plus potato skins very healthy. dont have to do it every day fudge/(cheat) once or twice a week.
yes lots of salads! canned tuna-albacore
do some research try to get a friend to help motivate you.


25 posted on 08/09/2021 8:19:56 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: 4everontheRight

“Do you know what your HDL & LDL numbers are?”

THIS

That is the key. My “bad” numbers are high, but my “good” are so high that it counters the “bad” very well. Not taking any drugs and my overall “risk” numbers are low.


26 posted on 08/09/2021 8:21:33 AM PDT by smoky415
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To: brianr10

my triglycerides were high one time..changed from bacon to turkey bacon, beef burgers to turkey burgers, voila numbers good.
green beans, spinach i add a touch of bacon either regular or turkey for flavor onions, garlic or garlic powder...


27 posted on 08/09/2021 8:26:30 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: brianr10

Given the choice, a lot of people would rather take the medicine than change their living habits.

I sat in on my wife’s cardiac rehab clinics, which was a gym that showed educational videos. 95% of all health problems could be alleviated by 30 minutes of exercise a day, 6 times a week. I guess resting on the 7th had some benefits too.


28 posted on 08/09/2021 8:28:10 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: AppyPappy

Get a carotid scan. I think Lifeline Screenings does them.


Yea. I paid for the full meal deal from them in February 2015. They said all was in great shape...no blockages. In April of same year, I was on a helicopter to go get my heart stinted. Never again.


29 posted on 08/09/2021 8:29:08 AM PDT by Deepeasttx ( Sensitivity/diversity training sessions are just reeducation camps without walls....for now.)
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To: brianr10

I, too, am not a doctor, but I have dealt with high cholesterol. At 177, I wouldn’t get on a statin. Statins can have a very bad effect on connective tissues. Some of mine were permanent after only a year on the statin. It doesn’t affect everyone that way, however. If you go on a statin, take CoQ10 as others have indicated. Request a very low dose of the statin.

Someone had mentioned that there are no good studies showing longer life expectancy. I believe that to be correct. Also, consider Niacin. High dosages of that are another way to reduce bad cholesterol. I get a “niacin flush” often when I take it, so I take at night. That way, my face doesn’t turn red as my capillaries open up at a time of the day when someone might notice me blushing.

Finally, I have read that dietary changes can have a very small effect on cholesterol as 80% of cholesterol in the body isn’t from your diet.

I hope this helps.


30 posted on 08/09/2021 8:37:37 AM PDT by indyman777 (question)
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To: brianr10

It’s not about carbs, it’s about insulin. Think of carbs as exercise fuel. One should only eat carbs before exercise. Walking takes care of the carbs from fresh fruits and vegetables. The exercise always needs to be AFTER the carbs, to restore a healthy insulin level.

If you want to eat pasta, you need to be a runner. 100 calories per mile. Two miles per plate.

Refined sugar and processed foods are NOT healthy. PERIOD. There are plenty of healthy, delicious alternatives.


31 posted on 08/09/2021 8:50:59 AM PDT by Go_Raiders (The fact is, we really don't know anything. It's all guesswork and rationalization.)
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To: 4everontheRight

You get a (10hr fast required) Lipid Panel done, at your local hospital’s lab.


32 posted on 08/09/2021 8:51:21 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit..)
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To: brianr10; Red Badger

>> Nobody I know has been able to stay on a low carb diet.

I know many.


33 posted on 08/09/2021 8:53:28 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: brianr10

It is difficult, but possible.

Pass up breads at dinnertime, no biggie.

Stay away from Italian foods, pasta is a killer.

Keep snacks like cookies and crackers to a bare minimum....................


34 posted on 08/09/2021 8:55:42 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: brianr10

Other than in rare cases where someone has had heart surgery, Statins have been pretty much debunked as a preventive treatment. Plenty of videos out there going through how the research was manipulated and about the REAL side effects of Statins, including diabetes, cataracts, etc.

However, I’m not a doctor, so my comments are only general...so take it that way.


35 posted on 08/09/2021 8:58:08 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: brianr10

Have you tried garlic pills? Garlique is a good “burpless” version.


36 posted on 08/09/2021 9:09:53 AM PDT by kaktuskid
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To: brianr10
If you are concerned about the medication, experiment with diet and exercise.

I have had borderline high blood pressure since I was in my twenties.

Besides family history, I have zero risk factors for high blood pressure.

They wanted to put me on a diuretic.

I thought about this for a while and concluded I could reduce my own blood volume by reducing my fluid intake.

My top line pressure dropped 5 points in two days with no meds.

The vague sense of thirst is uncomfortable sometimes, but apparently I am now completely healthy at a fairly old age.

37 posted on 08/09/2021 9:14:03 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: mmichaels1970

I will look into that.


38 posted on 08/09/2021 9:14:25 AM PDT by brianr10
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To: brianr10

A little off topic,, There was an article the other day about a cholesterol drug that significantly reduces civid viral load or something. It was an actual cholesterol reducer drug. Can’t remember the name now. It was just a day or so ago (yep my memory is like a steel trap... that has rusted shut)


39 posted on 08/09/2021 9:15:42 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: MD Expat in PA

Everything she said is in my post, She said I am at 13% increased risk for heart attack based on all these factors, like age, weight, BP., and that the low Cholesterol number of 177 is no longer determinative. My triglycerides were down in the 90s from 150.


40 posted on 08/09/2021 9:21:29 AM PDT by brianr10
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