Posted on 08/08/2021 3:58:26 PM PDT by BeauBo
(President Trump's Operation Warp Speed Update)
(Vaccinations strong again today - Cases, Hospitalizations and Death reporting on weekend lag)
Administered: 351,400,930 (13,674,107 J&J)
People Vaccinated, At Least One Dose: 194,866,738
Fully Vaccinated: 166,477,481
(Excerpt) Read more at covid.cdc.gov ...
“I doubt they do.”
The vaccinated are spreading covid no matter what you think. I doubt fireman15 is lying;
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3982767/posts?page=85#85
“I doubt they do...
Clearly, vaccinated people can get infected and transmit virus, but it also is pretty clear that they do not do it “just like the unvaccinated”.”
“Clearly, vaccinated people can get infected and transmit virus, but it also is pretty clear that they do not do it “just like the unvaccinated”.”
“Clearly, vaccinated people can get infected and transmit virus, but it also is pretty clear that they do not do it “just like the unvaccinated”.”
“There is a strong vaccine effect on infection rates, viral loads, severity and duration.”
That’s not what Fauci said about viral loads. He said they are essentially the same. Which is why the mask recommendation changed.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.31.21261387v1
CDC Director actually said “what they (Coronavirus vaccines) can׳t do anymore is prevent transmission.”
If I show you viral load reduction, I now believe that you will just shift to grasping the next straw, without missing a beat, or honestly re-considering your position.
So I am pulling back on spending the time.
Yeah better to show it to people that matter, like in the study I linked, Fauci, and the CDC director. And it should be information from the last few weeks, old information doesn’t apply.
Comparison to “previous vaccines” is irrelevant. Examples can be found in either direction, but the comparisons / information are lacking controls and are heavily biased. Of greatest significance, IMJ, is that no previous vaccine been the subject of even remotely so large and intense an effort to monitor for problems, related or not, once public vaccinations were begun. (If you’d been to a mass vacc clinic, you’d know this.) That completely destroys any attempt at quantitative comparison.
That leaves non-comparative safety analysis, which the Hopkins article addresses. If you believe they, and the vast majority of the medical community, are liars, then just say it. If you are right, we have FAR greater problems than the worst the extreme anti-vaccers claim for the Covid vaccine.
What bothers me is that in this silliness, real problems and potential problems are not being addressed. Several days delayed after a 2nd shot rashes affecting much of one’s torso or even their entire body (my wife’s case) seem to be fairly common. My wife’s lasted only overnight, but some I have direct knowledge of lasted several days, and one fellow I am acquainted with had major coverage of shingles-like rashes that prevented him from interviewing for new employment for a month.
It’s not irrelevant at all, read post 109. That alone tells you something is dreadfully wrong with covid vaccines.
A few days ago CDC Director actually said “what they (Coronavirus vaccines) can׳t do anymore is prevent transmission.” It’s on video. Watch, they are going approve a third injection. Get ready to take it!
Search VAERS for yourself here; https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/index.php
“If you believe they, and the vast majority of the medical community, are liars,”
More like politically correct confirmation bias. There are many doctors not on that bandwagon, and they aren’t quacks either.
What’s happening now is not what we were told would happen back in January. It’s amazing how far the goal posts have been moved since January, I don’t even know if goal posts exist anymore. Fauci et al were stunned by the developments of the last few weeks. All they can offer is a booster for vaccines that lost effectiveness after six months. It’s a massive SNAFU.
Anybody who knows anything about cold viruses knows immunity (natural or from a vaccine) was unlikely to last long. That had no bearing on my decision to get vaccinated, or support Trump’s program.
CDC is incompetent in most matters of “guidance”. The vaccines were never expected to greatly reduce, much less “prevent” transmission, though some reduction was hoped for (and seems to be evident within the realm of any one variant.)
I figured at least a 50/50 chance of most vaccinated needing a booster in under a year, and that wasn’t even with the expectation of a variant that may shed up to 1000x the original. I trust my doc, she’s very sensible (and mostly homeopathic oriented) — if she recommends I get a booster, I’d need to see far better evidence against it than anyone on FR has posted, to go against that recommendation and my own tracking of Covid cases vs. vaccine reactions through non-gov’t or media sources.
The “irrelavance” is that you asked a trick question based off trying to force a faulty comparison.
I personally know of 2 kids it messed up, like $15K in Hospital scans later we can’t explain why your Athletic 19 year old SMU honor student can’t form words anymore, but thank god she got her vaccine two days ago.
Don’t plan on the media contacting you about this.
Today hit a milestone: More people I personally know have been Hospitalized for bad reactions to the vaccine than people I personally know that were hospitalized for Covid.
The vaccine requirement for healthy kids is borderline criminal.
Dumbest “pandemic” ever.
My mother and father took the first Moderna vaccine shot about six weeks ago. Within a week my mother went from a very active person in her mid 80s to an invalid unable to make it from the bed to the bathroom. She has progressively gotten worse to the point that she now looks like a little death camp survivor. We and her doctors expect her to die soon. It wasn’t an allergic reaction. So your explanation fails miserably, but I am sure you can come up with something better to push these experimental vaccines on those of us who are skeptical.
I spent years working as a Hazmat Officer in charge of a Hazmat team. It was my responsibility to make risk assessments for bio and chemical hazards. I probably have had ten times as many vaccinations as most people. It is amazing to me how many of my former subordinates have refused to take these vaccines at the risk of losing their positions. The risk involved in taking an experimental vaccine should be left up to the individual and their doctor not the all knowing government, big tech and the corporate media.
I worked as a Hazmat Officer for ten years in charge of a big city Hazmat Team. I have had ten times as many vaccines as most people in my life and never had any complications and very few times when even my arm got sore. A week after my mother got the first Moderna shot she went from very active and going to the YMCA every day to an invalid who can’t make it from her bed to the bathroom without assistance. She has lost so much weight that she looks like a little death camp survivor and she cries and says that she is in so much pain that she just wants to die. These shots are not safe for everyone, and in many cases are most likely much worse for some individuals than getting Covid itself.
A friend of mine passed last week from Covid. He was 77 and he had the jab.
I just had a friend die 24 hours after getting the vaccine. A 52 year old male with no health issues. His death certificate says he died of cardiac arrest, which is the typical “Heart Stopped” report when no other condition can be found. There will be no VAERS report. He is not the first to die suddenly after the jab without a VAERS report.
Too late for me. Got my 2nd shot monday and let me tell you, it definitely effed me up. My legs feel weak as hell and I’m out of breath going up just a flight of stairs. Oh yeah and another thing: My right eye has a “flash blindness” that won’t go away. You know when someone shines something bright in your eye like a flash bulb and it makes your eyes see white? That’s what I’m getting on the bottom of my right eye. I have no idea if this is all from the vaccine but I didn’t have these crazy issues before.
2 family members got the shingles after the Pfizer shot within a week. Looked it up and there are articles that state it’s a possible side effect. Another family friend reacted horribly to the second moderne shot. I’ve seen countless posts of side effects that last a couple of days, but the above are the worst outside of non family and friends that I’ve heard.
It is irresponsible to vaccinate children who do not die from the disease and very rarely spread it.
I took the shot because I live with an at risk person. It was a mistake. I have had autoimmune issues since. Mostly dermatitis and arthritis that started almost immediately and are both still bothering me 2 months later.
I feel like the shot took years off my life.
I can tell you this: My mother is dead, soon after her 2nd Pfizer dose. Cause of death: a stroke, caused by a blood clot in the back of her brain. We have a very large extended family. This is the first stroke I’ve heard of within my family. Take it fwiw, but I know it was from the jab.
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