Problem is you’re advicing to ignore the CDC numbers, but the person is STILL USING the CDC numbers. VAER comes from CDC. So basically you’re saying “go with confirmation bias, like the numbers that agree with you, ignore the rest”.
Which is basically telling the person to lie to themselves.
Wrong advice. It’s not about standing your ground, it’s about using your head. Hats fashionable anymore, so it’s not a hat-rack. If you’re going to use CDC numbers you need to use ALL of them. And bother to understand what they mean. VAER is for reporting ALL medical incidents that happen shortly after ANY vaccine. A lot of that stuff will be unrelated, but they want to track that data to be able to find out about odd side effect. Like the prednisone temper problem. If you’re not finding out about people getting hospitalized for getting into fights after taking a medicine you’re not able to see that those numbers are high and maybe there’s something there.
And what you especially can’t do is take your convenient numbers and then multiple times 10 just cause. That’s called lying.
ok. again i’ll say facts matter.
i’m not advising to ignore the CDC data, in fact, i’m using their own data to call into question that very same data. it’s called “analysis.”
fact: death reporting has been messed up since last year. got plenty of reports from frontline medical and yes, morticians, to support that.
fact: VAERS comes from self reported data. not the cdc. that very fact makes it more telling than anything coming directly from the CDC. the CDC could be cooking those numbers sure. but they would be cooking them to make covid19 look more lethal, not less.
the 6% report from the CDC is a fact. further indicates confusion introduced in the death numbers due to a reporting bias on death certificates created by the CDC. that’s is a fact.
in terms, of suppositional arugument. i have no problem with it. i have no problem with it as long as it’s called out. Hypatia called it out.
i have a problem, however, with putting out a raw statistic without proper context. especially something as suspect as the 500K raw value from the CDC being thrown around here, which just magically “matches” with the number of covid19 deaths being reported by the same. especially since same number came out of nowhere in april after the data was highly correlated in previous years in the first 3 months.
i have a problem with flu data disappearing off the map in 2020.
i have lots of problems with what the cdc is putting out. imo, you sir or madam are way to trusting of the gov’t when it comes with numbers. i’ve made my living off numbers and gut feel with experience is as good as anything when it comes to making correct calls about statistical studies. always verify with multiple convergent sources of data before you trust them.