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Rep. Thomas Massie: Question for folks planning to take the third shot ... Do you believe we can eradicate this corona virus?
twitter ^ | July 31 | Rep. Thomas Massie

Posted on 08/01/2021 2:04:58 AM PDT by RandFan

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To: poinq

The young healthy people are vaccinated for the same reason young healthy people were vaccinated against polio and smallpox. If you are vaccinated it is highly unlikely your body will produce and spread the virus.

Covid had a big bunch of young people who had no symptoms but spread the virus, or it mutated in them as it spread.


21 posted on 08/01/2021 2:44:11 AM PDT by Cronos ( )
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To: RandFan

I did. None of them have any citations but are he said she said.


22 posted on 08/01/2021 2:44:49 AM PDT by Cronos ( )
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To: Cronos

How many times have you had mild polio, smallpox or Tetanus?


23 posted on 08/01/2021 2:45:33 AM PDT by Ymani Cricket ( "Pressure Makes Diamonds" ~General Patton)
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To: BiglyCommentary
Big corporations love it when the government puts a gun to the head of each citizen and tells to buy the company's product or service OR ELSE (fines). That's so much easier than them having to that yucky “compete in the marketplace” thing.

Exactly!

24 posted on 08/01/2021 2:47:51 AM PDT by SmokingJoe ( )
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To: poinq

When people who have already had covid are being being mandated or pushed into taking the FRANKENSTEIN VACCINES, common sense tells you the whole vax push has little to do with health.


25 posted on 08/01/2021 2:49:23 AM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: Cronos

Quite a few in the hospitals would tend to disagree.


26 posted on 08/01/2021 2:51:23 AM PDT by roving
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To: roving

The unvaccinated would be. Check the death rates. Practically nil among the vaccinated, even those at high risk


27 posted on 08/01/2021 2:54:32 AM PDT by Cronos ( )
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To: SmokingJoe

Along that same line, Socialists are envious wicked thieves but are too cowardly to pull a gun on you and demand some of your stuff. They want the government to do the dirty work for them.


28 posted on 08/01/2021 2:54:49 AM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: Cronos
The young healthy people are vaccinated for the same reason young healthy people were vaccinated against polio and smallpox

Joke post?
Over 300 million people died from small pox in the 20th century alone and small pox has been around for thousands of years.
You are going to compare some severe flu (coronavirus) to small pox now? Don't make me laugh.

29 posted on 08/01/2021 2:55:23 AM PDT by SmokingJoe ( )
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To: Ymani Cricket

Those are far less mutable viruses and the vaccines against polio and smallpox stopped ie eradicated them


30 posted on 08/01/2021 2:56:21 AM PDT by Cronos ( )
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To: SmokingJoe

And no one has died from smallpox in decades.

Why? Because people got vaccinated


31 posted on 08/01/2021 2:57:11 AM PDT by Cronos ( )
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To: Cronos
The young healthy people are vaccinated [against COVID] for the same reason young healthy people were vaccinated against polio and smallpox.

Comparing COVID with polio and/or small pox - with regards to virulence, lethality, communicability, etc. - is invalid.

Likewise, calling the "Jab" a "vaccine" is deceiving. It is NOT a vaccine in the customary sense of the word.

Are you deliberately attempting to mislead us?

Regards,

32 posted on 08/01/2021 2:59:45 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Cronos

You are a clueless idiot. You just spout off the official propaganda and statistics which have been shown to be lie after lie. The CDC just announced they will not be collecting certain stats for vaccinated people.


33 posted on 08/01/2021 3:00:56 AM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: Baldwin77

exactly

Lockdowns, shutdowns, masks etc. will only prolong the inevitable.

The only way out of this is surprisingly how the American public is reacting to this vaccine demand BS(note, I am vaxxed due to age/comorbidities).

It isn’t vaxxed or unvaxxed, it is we are in this together. The young and healthy can let their immune systems handle exposures conferring on them natural immunity.

If this plays out as it should, no shutdowns etc., this pandemic should be over by spring. But if they attempt to lock us away for another 6 months in fear, it will prolong it and the vaxxed people will need another mRna booster.

In other words, we need to be doing the exact opposite of what the “experts” are telling us. Any population that has not been exposed to the virus is a risk for it to sweep through their population and kill the most vulnerable.

America is in a good place right now between vaxxed and unvaxxed. We should have minimal need for ICU beds and minimal deaths comparatively.


34 posted on 08/01/2021 3:06:19 AM PDT by EBH (Republics are only meant for a good and moral people. 1776-2021 May God Save Us.)
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To: BiglyCommentary

Don’t collect negative statistics for vaccinated and lo and behold THE STATS LOOK AWESOME. And either the clueless or liars repeat those GLORIOUS stats.


35 posted on 08/01/2021 3:06:26 AM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: Cronos

“Eradicate” as in eliminate it from the environment like smallpox or polio (both of whom were eradicated by vaccines)?
Highly possible in a year or two.


Lots of this statement is wrong. Polio is not eradicated now. Maybe in most of the world its gone. But there are still cases today. Smallpox is not as infectious and its both obvious and more deadly. So spread is easy to see. Vaccines could be targeted. People could avoid the sick at the time they were infectious. That is not true of Corona. We will never, can never eradicate Corona. You can’t see it. So it will keep coming back. Vaccines don’t stop it. They help boost your immune system in hopes that you can better fight it. Those vaccinated can still get it and do. They can still pass it along, and do. They can still die from Corona, and do.

There are no long term studies of the vaccine. We don’t know if there are bad long term affects. The vaccine has just been around for a year. Studies are not out on the few people who tried the vaccine early. In England some of those early testers have come down with some nasty ailments. We hear nothing in America of side effects from early tests. And yet we know there are some by the people reporting on their own.


36 posted on 08/01/2021 3:10:38 AM PDT by poinq
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To: Cronos

So you are just guessing. Here is a fact for you. It is not a vaccine. Here is another fact...it is an experimental injection. The truth will set you free!


37 posted on 08/01/2021 3:11:46 AM PDT by Boardwalk (Lets)
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To: EBH

Some very good points. Masks and social distancing slow down the sampling of small amounts of covid by the immune system most people will encounter going about their daily lives. That is how The Creator builds the immune system in babies. They constantly touch things and then put the hands or those things in their mouth, providing samples to be catalogued.


38 posted on 08/01/2021 3:17:33 AM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: RandFan

Have the managed to eliminate the common cold? Or influenza?

I will probably get the third shot to try to protect my wife, but don’t believe they’ll be any more successful than they have been with the other virii. They still don’t even understand how a virus works.


39 posted on 08/01/2021 3:19:28 AM PDT by Old Student (As I watch the balkanization of our nation I realize that Robert A. Heinlein was a prophet. )
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To: RandFan

No vaccine has ever offered 100% protection or wiped out a virus forever or prevented mutations. This is no different.

In the same way, no vaccine is 100% safe. This is no different.

I had the first two shots. I had no reaction whatsoever, which means I had already had COVID, as I suspected
several months earlier.

I don’t want a third one because I’m sick and tired of the government fear machine, the politically motivated exaggeration of the risks, and the way hospitals and the pharmaceutical Industry are pushing the panic to keep their income stream going. I also don’t like the element of compulsion that is increasingly a part of their strategy. Thus I question the necessity or usefulness of a third shot, especially since part of the government’s fear tactic is to self-contradictorily tell us that it really doesn’t help much anyway.

But if people want to get it, fine. It no doubt does help to protect in most cases, and in most cases it won’t have adverse effects.

I’m not an anti-Vaxer and I think that the hysteria and hyperbole isn’t helpful. But at the same time, I feel it should be left up to the individual.


40 posted on 08/01/2021 3:24:58 AM PDT by livius
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