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1 posted on 07/31/2021 6:08:14 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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Wow,CNN. Impressive 😁


36 posted on 07/31/2021 6:44:40 PM PDT by dforest (huh)
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So one out of four “vaccinated” that end up in the hospital die.

.004-.001 = 4

This after Biteme claimed “you can’t get COVID if you’ve had the vaccine”

Super!


44 posted on 07/31/2021 6:53:28 PM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists.)
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During the time period when we would all get smallpox vaccines, how many breakthrough cases of smallpox were there?


54 posted on 07/31/2021 7:15:26 PM PDT by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men.)
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And we’re supposed to trust government stats when they are pushing us so hard to take the vax?

Nope, they’ve lied from start to finish on all aspects of this alleged pandemic.

I don’t believe them now either.


58 posted on 07/31/2021 7:17:37 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith
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Good news ping.


62 posted on 07/31/2021 7:20:53 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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More information warfare. Only show the really small number if it fits one’s narrative but ignore the really small number when it does not support it, sort of like the survival rate of this disease.


64 posted on 07/31/2021 7:21:07 PM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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Treat it like a very bad cold. Every person should practice optimal protection. I felt confidant that the mrna vaccine would be safe and effective at stopping the covid 19. But it appears that there are many unanswered safety( short and long term) questions....and it doesn’t stop transmission dead in its tracks...so no herd immunity.
The fact that they are using coercion and or rewards is especially troubling. Just tell the truth about what you know or don’t know. We will decide.


69 posted on 07/31/2021 7:32:53 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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So then (from the headline) about 25% of hospitalized fully vaccinated breakthrough patients are dying?

Well, the vaccines may be good at preventing breakthrough cases (or not), and may be good at preventing hospitalized cases among breakthrough cases (or not) (hard to know since CDC is not tracking breakthroughs as a whole) —

But the vaccines don’t seem very good at preventing deaths of hospitalized breakthrough patients.

Before vaccines, mortality of hospitalized SARS-COV-2-positive patients was below 20% on average for every month of 2020 (March-November) according to the study linked below (all the way down to 9.3% in November), and below 20% for even patients over 75 in every month but April.

Source: http://jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?doi=10.1001/jamanetworkopen.2021.6556 (see Figure 3).

(CDC data given here https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html suggests mortality of fully vaccinated SARS-COV-2-positive hospital patients [including asymptomatic admissions for other purposes] is ~ 20%. Not 25%, but still worse than SARS-COV-2-positive-admission mortality before the vaccines.)


71 posted on 07/31/2021 7:41:11 PM PDT by Joachim
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CDC is probably using the Hansen, Mann and Jones Global Warming Prediction model .... you put in the desired results and the model creates data to support it ... the ultimate in reverse engineering.


75 posted on 07/31/2021 8:44:17 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Corrupt Slow Joe Biden is the Bolshevik sock puppet.)
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The communist Democrat commissars or CDC is a private agency that owns Patents on 42 different vaccines that they’re trying to sell

What else at this point do you need to know?


79 posted on 07/31/2021 9:35:51 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (Arizona !!!! Now the TRUMP TRAIN is getting back on TRACK ! TRUTH! FREEDOM ! LIBERTY! )
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Surely they meant unvaxxed right? Or partially vaxxed or thinking about getting vaxxed or whose cousin was vaxxed.... cdc=clowns doin’ clowns. đŸ€ĄđŸ‚đŸ’©


80 posted on 07/31/2021 10:03:28 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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The CDC-CNN data in this post is deliberately misleading...

(1) Since January 2020, there have been roughly 600,000 COVID related USA fatalities.

(2) There were 300,000 COVID fatalities before the first vaccine shot was given.

(3) By 01 March 2021, less than 10% of the USA population had been fully vaccinated.

(4) By 01 March 2021 - before even 10% of the country was fully vaccinate - there were already 542,000 COVID fatalities.

(5) The CDC and CNN are counting are almost every one of those 542,000 deaths as "un-vaccinated" - as if USA citizens actually had a choice.

(6) In the last four weeks, even with the Delta variant, there have been less than 1,626 COVID deaths per week.

(7) In late October 2017, the USA had 1,626 influenza deaths in one week.

I do not recall that the CDC recommended masks and mandatory flu vaccinations in 2017.

86 posted on 08/01/2021 12:59:36 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Berlin_Freeper; LucyT; ransomnote

OK. Let’s believe the CNN
er
CDC
lies
.er
.numbers.

1- Why do you need more, prolonged lockdowns?

2- Why do you need masks and/or mask mandates?

3- Why do you need masking in certain unspecified areas?

4- Why didn’t you revise the 600,000+++ dead from Covid numbers?

Let me try to posit very simple answers.

a- It’s keeping the charade intact for the ‘22 election and perhaps for the ‘24

b- it’s creating a news cycle diversion to hide the passing of $5.5 T spending bill, which may require cancellation of the filibustering and to control any possibility of demonstrating, especially in D.C. They have the J6 hearings as a backup!

c- the yet to specify masking areas will be DEFINITELY SPECIFIED in the battleground states, when the time comes! 😜😜 to make sure of no voting day ‘shenanigans’ as in standing in line to vote, for instance!

d- Covid death numbers should be revised down by hundreds of thousands of yearly death numbers from common flu, heart attacks, cancer, etc..and perhaps accidents. Revise down to the real death from, NOT with Covid!

The above common denominator is very simple:

It’s the mail-in ballots
..stooooopid!


91 posted on 08/01/2021 9:09:29 AM PDT by melancholy (You can vote Socialism in, but you have to shoot your way out. (FReeper pilgrim heard it said))
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