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Dnice4Jesus @DeniceMarin emailed the CDC to ask them how they are verifying what variant is dominant. This was their answer. Thoughts?
Twitter ^ | 7/29/2021 | Dnice4Jesus @DeniceMarin

Posted on 07/30/2021 5:57:50 AM PDT by ransomnote

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To: semimojo
The PCR does not identify the Covid virus...

It detects the virus and identifies it as SARS CoV-2. Further testing can identify which variant.

This has been known from the start.

What's your point?

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The PCR Does not detect the Covid virus. It uses a strand of molecules as a reference and check for that sequence in other materials. The PCR was developed without access to a live virus. China developed a genome which it released to the world on Jan 10 but it did so without access to the live virus.

It used gene sequencing, which cannot determine the genome of a 'novel' virus, as we are told Covid is supposed to be. The sequencing software patches in portions of genome from similar viruses, but at that time the CDC was busy lying through it's teeth claiming Covid was 'novel' and therefore there is no 'similar virus.

SO the 'shots' and PCR were developed without the authentic virus for comparison. THere are more than one PCR 'tests' for Covid. The WHO got 'clever' and used as a reference a chain of molecules present in the human genome. That way, if the swab picked up any human genetic material in the nasal cavity, the person would be diagnosed 'positive' for Covid.

Other PCRs were less useful. They tested positive for Kiwi, goat, orange juice, and Coca Cola but results for motor oil were inconclusive. The PCR is using as a reference a strand of molecules found in many other substances, but nothing specific to Covid or any other coronavirus.

If that weren't enough, the CDC intentionally directs the tests to be run at a cycle rate that even ANthony Fauci said rendered the test 'meaningless' because it identified leftover remnants of generic viral material floating  around.

SO the test was never valid. I've been saying that for months and no one has refuted it. When complaints from the online community go forth, lawsuits have begun over the fraudulent PCR test, the CDC replies with crickets.

As the 'jig is up' and the public realizes  the CDC destroyed their lives with a fake PCR, quarantining, and fake vaccines based on a fake PCR, the CDC announced it is retiring the PCR 'test' for a new test produced by your favorite Eugenecist, Bill Gates, and his monstrous side-kick George Soros.

That's my point. 

Here's the video of one of the many people who have exposed the PCR test as a fraud.

President of Tanzania Exposes The Fake COVID 19 Testing kits - YouTube

Here are images if anyone is interested in looking but doesn't want to watch the whole video.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3978867/posts?page=204#204

41 posted on 07/30/2021 8:05:21 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: EBH

“Let’s say...”?
For petes sake, you are Fauci’s intern?
If you don’t know, just guess?
That is some pathetic stuff, my friend.


42 posted on 07/30/2021 8:32:25 AM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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To: tatown

What has become obvious is that the entire human race is being subjected to a massive experiment where the ‘scientists’ don’t really know what they’re doing or what the outcome may be.


43 posted on 07/30/2021 9:34:39 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Responsibility2nd

You mean, “Sorry Dave. I can’t do that?”

Hal was the computer.


44 posted on 07/30/2021 9:37:32 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…..)
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To: Qui is

Just expect the worst from them and the answer by default is *Yes*.


45 posted on 07/30/2021 9:38:24 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…..)
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To: ransomnote
Are CDC’s newest Covid variant tests for "Surveillance only"?

We know of two different cases where the culprits who spread the disease were identified.

In late June, one couple our age, 80 something got hammered with the Delta variant and ended up in the big PPO's hospital for about a week and a week at a step down unit. They supposedly got it from her PT, and he was hammered with the critter. Their family living next door got it and were over it in a few days.

Our contractor earlier this month got hammered with this Delta variant. His wife and two young daughters barely had it. Supposedly, a baby sitter gave it to friends of their daughters, who gave it their daughters and their mother, his wife. Then he got it from his family.

My wife and I were wondering what was new as the PCR tests could/can not be that specific.

Maybe now we know.

46 posted on 07/30/2021 9:59:06 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (If I wanted to live in China, Cuba, Canada or ?????! I would move there! Covid 19 über alles!!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
"So you take a PCR test and it comes back positive. That means you have the flu."

SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19) is as similar to Influenza virus as humans are to snails. They're both viruses, but that's where the similarity ends. They aren't even in the same phylum. The RT-PCR test for SARS-CoV-2 distinguishes it from all other known viruses, including SARS-CoV-1 and MERS-CoV.

"Is it Covid-19 or the good old fashion flu? Can’t tell without further genome testing."

No, you absolutely can. It is literally impossible for the Influenza virus to trigger an RT-PCR test for SARS-CoV-2. The sequences don't match at all. Not even close. Influenza's genome has about 14,000 base pairs. SARS-CoV-2 has about 29,000. They're completely and totally different.

"OK, please do that and tell me if it’s covid, what variant it is? Sorry Hal. I can’t do that. The CDC says you don’t need to know."

Complete genome sequencing is expensive and time consuming. Roughly $130 per sample. The US has had over 35 million positive cases so far. You want the Federal government handing CDC an additional $5 Billion to satisfy your personal curiosity? Also, it would take months because of the backlog because there aren't enough labs and personnel to keep up. If you want to know which variant you have, find a lab who will take a sample and pay for it out of your own pocket.

47 posted on 07/30/2021 9:59:09 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: semimojo

I think I’ll believe the guy who invented the PCR test over you and CNN


48 posted on 07/30/2021 10:29:35 AM PDT by roving
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

“35 million positive cases”. lol


49 posted on 07/30/2021 10:31:27 AM PDT by roving
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To: Pollard
"I think the point is that the CDC and MSM keep yapping about this Delta variant being prevalent but it’s doubtful that they know an accurate count of how many people have Delta compared to Alpha."

Or better yet, the next variants active in the vector that haven't been identified. I think we're on or near Omega on taxonomy. How apropos!

50 posted on 07/30/2021 10:42:58 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (All of you have one of the following in your 401k: Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, Johnson & Johnson)
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To: ransomnote
The PCR does not identify the Covid virus, or diagnose the Covid illness in patients.

To avoid being banned, I’ll just say that the PCR is nothing but a misspelled PRC!

That’s what this bastardized administration is doing; officially working for the ChiCom to ruin our country!

It’s the mail-in ballots….stoooopid!

51 posted on 07/30/2021 11:49:12 AM PDT by melancholy (You can vote Socialism in, but you have to shoot your way out. (FReeper pilgrim heard it said))
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To: semimojo

“ It detects the virus and identifies it as SARS CoV-2. ”

Your handlers need to get you an updated script, the CDC just admitted that the OCT test can’t distinguish between covid, the flu, or the common cold.

Please cease and desist spreading your false information. This isn’t the first time.


52 posted on 07/30/2021 12:02:35 PM PDT by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: BlueMondaySkipper
...the CDC just admitted that the OCT test can’t distinguish between covid, the flu, or the common cold.

No they didn't.

It's true the Covid test they're retiring can't identify influenza, but it can't identify smallpox either. It identifies SARS CoV-2 only - by design

The test reliably said whether a sample included SARS CoV-2 or not, because that's what it was designed to do.

It never confused the Covid virus with any other and only anti Covid-vaxxers are stupid or dishonest enough to imply it did.

53 posted on 07/30/2021 12:38:42 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: Grampa Dave

Wait, I thought kids couldn’t get it or pass it on?


54 posted on 08/01/2021 6:56:58 AM PDT by Chicory
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To: Chicory

They get it and often it is not much more severe than a 2-3 day cold or allergies.

Which is why many of us feel that if they are under 18/20 don’t vaccinate them.


55 posted on 08/01/2021 7:30:18 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (If I wanted to live in China, Cuba, Canada or ?????! I would move there! Covid 19 über alles!!!)
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To: Grampa Dave

Thanks! I thought I had heard people saying the other.


56 posted on 08/01/2021 12:34:12 PM PDT by Chicory
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To: Chicory

“Thanks! I thought I had heard people saying the other.”

You probably did.:)


57 posted on 08/01/2021 2:21:47 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (If I wanted to live in Australia, China,Cuba, Canada, Or?? I would move there! Covid 19 über alles!)
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To: semimojo

You’re quite the “vaccine” promoter, even in the face of the obvious scam being perpetrated on us. Does it pay well, or do you spout this nonsense for free?

“Detection of viral RNA may not indicate the presence of infectious virus or that 2019-nCoV is the causative agent for clinical symptoms. The performance of this test has not been established for monitoring treatment of 2019-nCoV infection. This test cannot rule out diseases caused by other bacterial or viral pathogens.” — The Centers For Disease Control and Prevention

https://www.fda.gov/media/134922/download

What I said is true, and we haven’t even discussed the, in my view criminal, manipulation of the cycles used in the PCR tests which vary wildly, depending on what outcomes the scoundrels are seeking.

Even the inventor of the PCR test says it doesn’t do what you say it does.

Since there are some people getting paid by how many responses they get in their support of the narrative, this is the end of this particular exchange to you.


58 posted on 08/02/2021 9:52:41 AM PDT by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: BlueMondaySkipper
Detection of viral RNA may not indicate the presence of infectious virus or that 2019-nCoV is the causative agent for clinical symptoms...

But as I said, there's no question it identifies the presence of the virus.

"The test reliably said whether a sample included SARS CoV-2 or not..."

Since there are some people getting paid by how many responses they get in their support of the narrative, this is the end of this particular exchange to you.

Since you think some other people are paid posters you won't converse with me.

That's a pretty good example of anti-vaxxer logic right there.

59 posted on 08/02/2021 10:29:44 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: FrankRizzo890

They have been saying “shutta upa your face-a for nearly 2 years now.


60 posted on 10/18/2021 6:16:13 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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