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What do you mean, the virus mutates?
American Thinker ^ | 30 Jul, 2021 | William Dodd

Posted on 07/30/2021 4:13:55 AM PDT by MtnClimber

Billions of dollars may have been wasted on vaccines if what the CDC is spinning now is even half-true.

In a press conference on July 28, 2021, Dr. Rochelle Walensky, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, stated that "[t]he big concern is the next variant that might emerge, just a few mutations potentially away, could potentially evade our vaccines."

For Walensky to say the CDC has a "big concern" that the COVID virus might be a few mutations away from being a version that is not susceptible to vaccines is likely a de facto admission that such mutations already exist.

This could explain the reason for the CDC's sudden shift in its recommendation that widespread use of masks should be reinstated. But beyond the mask policy change, there is a much more significant indication here. If we are now dealing with a version of the original COVID virus that cannot be rendered benign or killed by vaccines, then there are two significant conclusions:

– The resurgence of virus cases is not due to the unvaccinated as the politicians would like us to believe; the unvaccinated made the correct choice in avoiding inoculation. The new cases are from a virus mutation that has been caused by the DNA/mRNA-based vaccines. A vaccine forces a virus to mutate in order for the virus to survive — remember from Darwin's evolutionary theory, "survival of the fittest."

– Mandating use of the current vaccines on the market or any future untested vaccines should cease immediately. First, the vaccines now being distributed are likely ineffective in dealing with the current mutated viruses, and second, these vaccines are causing the ongoing mutations of the original COVID virus.

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To: MtnClimber

The mutations could just as easily become milder and become “vaccines” on their own. They could infect people, but not do much harm even to the elderly or at risk and then people would be completely immune to other forms. Kids who have already had today’s virus will grow up immune anyway.


21 posted on 07/30/2021 4:35:29 AM PDT by finnsheep
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To: Renfrew

The issue is what part of the virus shell (capsid) is recognized by the antibodies.

The capsid assembly is like an old soccer ball. The patches that for the ball are proteins. These must fit together precisely, making viable mutations less likely.

The spike protein, chosen by the vaccine manufacturers, sticks out, making only part of it required to fit into the soccer ball pattern of the virus.

Many Mutations in the spike don’t matter to the virus capsid assembly.

RNA viruses tend to have sloppy , accident prone replication. The spike is where these random errors will show up more often in viable mutated viruses.


22 posted on 07/30/2021 4:36:20 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: MtnClimber
The history of effective corona virus vaccines is not one of good success.

They have proven remarkably adaptable and difficult to immunize against.

Most are like the common cold - very infectious but not very severe or dangerous.

This is why gain of function research to produce lethal strains of corona virus is insanely irresponsible.

23 posted on 07/30/2021 4:36:50 AM PDT by rdcbn1
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To: MtnClimber

That’s a rhetorical question. Right?


24 posted on 07/30/2021 4:37:19 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Republican politicans love being in office, Democrat politicians love being in power.)
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To: MtnClimber
For Walensky to say the CDC has a "big concern" that the COVID virus might be a few mutations away from being a version that is not susceptible to vaccines is likely a de facto admission that such mutations already exist.

No, it's fear mongering. That's the one thing the CDC has shown itself to excel at during this pandemic.

25 posted on 07/30/2021 4:38:07 AM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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To: blueplum

Since Bidet and the Democrats refuse to protect the border from illegal aliens, we will continue to be subject to all kinds of diseases from all over the world.


26 posted on 07/30/2021 4:38:54 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: blueplum

“The mutations ‘of concern’ arose in India, Africa, Brazil and Peru. These are all countries that had no vaccines and which distributed ivermectin, HCQ and fok remedies (the old garlic lemon and onion slushie) if they even had that, as an only resort outside of hospitalization. In the case of UK, their patient zero Delta cases were returnees from Nepal and Turkey.”

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All balderdash.


27 posted on 07/30/2021 4:39:02 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: one guy in new jersey

“The huge Vaxx push bothers me. Why do they want to force this on others.”

__________

“Because, they are overreacting and neurotic. They want us to be fearful and share their particular neuroses”

__________

Misery loves company.

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I serve as a transportation volunteer at a sporting event. One of the media persons I transported in April, was outraged that Texas was not requiring masks and keeping restaurants closed while she had to endure that in California where she lived. Never mentioned the open COVID borders at the southern part of each state. Such lack of awareness!

I would like to have discussed that political issue with her, but that is not permitted in my assignment.


28 posted on 07/30/2021 4:44:53 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (A world in which dogs write poetry is more believable than the world as seen through the Media)
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To: MtnClimber
Mandating use of the current vaccines on the market or any future untested vaccines should cease immediately. First, the vaccines now being distributed are likely ineffective in dealing with the current mutated viruses, and second, these vaccines are causing the ongoing mutations of the original COVID virus.

No, the main reason that the “vaccines” shouldn’t be mandated is that “COVID” is no deadlier than any flu or cold that has ever existed. I am so tired of everyone starting by conceding that “COVID” is some super-deadly plague that warrants ANY of what has happened. It doesn’t. We have a year and a half of evidence that it doesn’t. The entire “pandemic” is a fraud, an illusion created by manipulation of numbers (bogus PCR “tests” and (at best) dubious, if not outright dishonest reporting of “COVID deaths”).

Whether the “vaccines” are effective or not is irrelevant. NONE of this - the masks, the lockdowns, the social distancing, and most of all, the “vaccines” - was ever justified or necessary. The moment you concede that “COVID” poses such a threat that any of the unconstitutional crap that has been done in its name, you’ve already lost the argument with the “COVID” lunatics.

29 posted on 07/30/2021 4:45:35 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: LIConFem

Just another example of the regime’s push to demonize the irredeemable deplorables. Irredeemable means exactly that, no hope to make us fit their new glorious society. The regime’s MO is more Nazi than Bolshevik.


30 posted on 07/30/2021 4:47:21 AM PDT by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Triple
The issue is what part of the virus shell (capsid) is recognized by the antibodies.

The capsid assembly is like an old soccer ball. The patches that for the ball are proteins. These must fit together precisely, making viable mutations less likely.

The spike protein, chosen by the vaccine manufacturers, sticks out, making only part of it required to fit into the soccer ball pattern of the virus.

Many Mutations in the spike don't matter to the virus capsid assembly.

RNA viruses tend to have sloppy , accident prone replication. The spike is where these random errors will show up more often in viable mutated viruses.


These spike protein replication errors present in vaxed patients who subsequently get corona virus infections provide a wealth of spike protein variant genetic materials to potentially enable, enhance and accelerate the mutation of the virus in unpredictable directions.

31 posted on 07/30/2021 4:49:02 AM PDT by rdcbn1
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To: Renfrew

“Some viruses mutate quickly (flu) and are hard to vaccinate against. Coronaviruses have more stable genomes. They are in the group of viruses that have error correcting tools to prevent rapid mutation.”

I’m missing something there. Is the Delta variant not a rapid mutation?


32 posted on 07/30/2021 4:50:58 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (Come back, President Trump.)
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To: MtnClimber

Notice the feds are using a Nov deadline


33 posted on 07/30/2021 4:52:05 AM PDT by silverleaf (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: Renfrew

Maybe not a good comparison because traditional vaccines…the smallpox and polio were not as leaky ( not 100% because as a live virus vaccind some people did contract polio from the vaccine) as these rushed experiments against a human-engineered bioagent for which no complete virus sample exists in any Western lab.


34 posted on 07/30/2021 4:57:06 AM PDT by silverleaf (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: rdcbn1

And that’s why they chose the spike to vaccinate against.

Because they made it.


35 posted on 07/30/2021 4:59:54 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice)
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To: MtnClimber

Sometimes the cure is worse than the disease.


36 posted on 07/30/2021 5:04:45 AM PDT by bray (Hating Whites is racist)
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To: Jim Noble

Kind of looking that way


37 posted on 07/30/2021 5:12:23 AM PDT by rdcbn1
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To: MtnClimber
I'm tired of hearing so much about vaccinations and so little about immunization. Properly administered vaccines should result in the same number of immunizations. One immunization per properly administered vaccine and/or inoculation. "Vaccination" is what they call for the most but shouldn't we also be hearing more about the desired effect(s) such as "inoculated" and "immunization"?

NO VACCINATION WITHOUT IMMUNIZATION!
38 posted on 07/30/2021 5:14:21 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: MtnClimber
A friend of ours is a pharmacist who is not into politics. He took a job with the CDC when he lost his job at our local hospital. He would tell us how he couldn't believe how much politics played into the decision making at that agency. He actually quit after the CDC allowed CNN to use fraudulent data on flu vaccines to try and slam Trump.
39 posted on 07/30/2021 5:14:30 AM PDT by MissEdie (Be the Light in Someone's Darkness.)
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To: MtnClimber

Annual flu shot


40 posted on 07/30/2021 5:14:59 AM PDT by Hulka
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