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Any medical types want to venture a hypothesis?
1 posted on 07/29/2021 7:29:44 AM PDT by Scooter100
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To: Scooter100

It doesn’t. I think that’s why they’ve pulled it recently, unless I’m completely misreading those articles myself.


2 posted on 07/29/2021 7:32:15 AM PDT by rarestia (Repeal the 17th Amendment and ratify Article the First to give the power back to the people!)
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It probably can’t, which is why FDA/CDC is pulling the approval in December.


3 posted on 07/29/2021 7:34:05 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (If I wanted to live in China, Cuba, Canada or ?????! I would move there! Covid 19 über alles!!!)
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Should we start calling the “Delta” variant....”Covid-21”???


4 posted on 07/29/2021 7:34:39 AM PDT by Scooter100
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I don’t know but Colorado lists 6 active variants with Delta being by far the most prevalent. How they ID them I don’t know. They range from .47% of Colorado cases to 40% (Delta).


5 posted on 07/29/2021 7:35:20 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods ( comment might be sarcasm, or not. It depends. Often I'm not sure either.)
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Since they have never isolated the novel coronavirus, they don’t even know about that, let alone identifying variants. That is why the PCR test was worthless except to generate fear among the population which allowed them to do many things they never could have done without it.


7 posted on 07/29/2021 7:38:01 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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I assume it’s like the census or global temperatures.
First collect a lot of data and come up with results.
Realize those are not the results you desire.
Change the results, because Science.


9 posted on 07/29/2021 7:40:31 AM PDT by Do_Tar (Do I really need a /sarc?)
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From what I understand, the only way to determine a variant is through gene sequencing. Every country’s CDC is doing periodic checks as to which variants are evolving in their population. PCR testing is not able to distinguish this difference in variants, and depending on the cycle rate, may not even be reliable to distinguish between inert SARS-COV-2 virus segments or active virus. It would be interesting to know if the cycle rates have been again turned higher in the laboratories in the red states so as to create “an pandemic of the unvaccinated.”


10 posted on 07/29/2021 7:40:41 AM PDT by Madam Theophilus
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The CDC has changed the PCR test's cycle threshold to 27 when testing vaccinated people. I assume it is still a CT of 45 when testing unvaccinated.

Surrounded by weasels.

11 posted on 07/29/2021 7:42:43 AM PDT by Scooter100
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It never did, from what I read. It just showed that the person had a virus or the remnants of one, I thought. And that was one of the reasons they changed the testing protocol from 25 cycles to 40 cycles(or however they describe the process). At the standard 25 it detected a virus. At 40 it detected a virus or something your body’s immune system had already dealt with. Perhaps, some of the more medically literate folks can verify that.

Amazing how last year the traditional flu disappeared, completely.

No telling how many folks had nothing more than than the traditional flu, a cold, bad allergies or bronchitis, each one of them a stat for Fauci, Birks and Gates.

On a side note, I have a question for some of the medical type folks on here:

Person A, who is in a ‘high risk’ category, gets whatever strain of the flu that is predominant in a particular year, say 2020. It goes untreated. They die. Is what they die from, ie what happens in/to their body that causes the death, the same as what was causing some folks to die from complications of COVID?


12 posted on 07/29/2021 7:45:54 AM PDT by qaz123
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it’s SCIENCE. That’s all you need to know.


13 posted on 07/29/2021 7:47:29 AM PDT by Rio
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Question: How does the PCR test distinguish between Covid-19 and the Delta variant and the common flu?

Answer: it can’t


14 posted on 07/29/2021 7:49:59 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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It doesn’t. And it can’t distinguish between covid and the seasonal flu. It was announced last week that the PCR test was being withdrawn.

So yeah, the Covid numbers are largely bogus to the extent that the CDC was relying on a test that didn’t distinguish and also was way too sensitive as it was being used.


15 posted on 07/29/2021 7:52:55 AM PDT by Tallguy
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For anyone who wants to geek out, check this out, scroll down to Viruses...

Resistance of SARS-CoV-2 variants to neutralization by monoclonal and serum-derived polyclonal antibodies

Doesn't look like anything that any public health lab is doing.

16 posted on 07/29/2021 7:54:15 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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It doesn’t distinguish. A positive test is a postive test, regardless of the variant. You need other tests and genetic analysis to determine what % of current cases are delta variant.


18 posted on 07/29/2021 7:54:40 AM PDT by babble-on
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It can’t even tell the diff between COVID and the flu...


20 posted on 07/29/2021 7:58:59 AM PDT by Mathews (It's all gravy, baby!)
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How does the PCR test distinguish between Covid-19 and the Delta variant?

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A better question is How does the PCR test distinguish between Covid-19 and the REGULAR FLU?

And the answer is - It doesn’t.


24 posted on 07/29/2021 8:06:18 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I love my country. It's my government that I hate.)
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Apparently it’s by symptoms. And, just for the record, symptom means (Merriam Webster):

Definition of symptom

1a : subjective evidence of disease or physical disturbance broadly : something that indicates the presence of bodily disorder
b : an evident reaction by a plant to a pathogen
2a : something that indicates the existence of something else symptoms of an inner turmoil
b : a slight indication : trace


26 posted on 07/29/2021 8:09:05 AM PDT by SuzyQue
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I’m not a doctor and don’t play one on TV. I might play doctor and nurse at home, though.

I have questioned the same thing; how can they tell the variant differences.

Yesterday I listened to Dr. Andrew Kaufman on Infowars. 48 careful minutes of defn of virus, testing procedures, etc., and the most in-depth answer to this question, and more.

https://banned.video/watch?id=6101d9376ffa43194aad80cb

He must be over the target, as DuckDuck of him, portrays him as unqualified and otherwise goofy.

I will watch him again. I believe that he presents real science, and would help a person make an informed VAX decision.


28 posted on 07/29/2021 8:18:09 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (My /s is more true than your /science (or you might mean /seance))
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I doesn't. You have to genetically sequence the sample to determine the variant.

And for all those others that have posted, the FDA is not pulling approval to use RT PCR. They are ending the EUA for the CDC developed panel. Testers will use one of many other PCR panels, including those with multiple targets. Multiple targets means a single test run can also look for the flu, among other things.

31 posted on 07/29/2021 9:00:15 AM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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I asked that question yesterday and was told the TMA test I was given can’t differentiate between variants.


36 posted on 07/29/2021 9:35:25 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (In time of peace, prepare for war.)
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