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China is gearing up to activate the world's first 'clean' commercial nuclear reactor (molten salt thorium. waterless cooling)
LiveScience ^ | 7-23-21 | Ben Turner

Posted on 07/28/2021 10:27:48 AM PDT by dynachrome

Chinese government scientists have unveiled plans for a first-of-its-kind, experimental nuclear reactor that does not need water for cooling.

The molten-salt nuclear reactor, which runs on liquid thorium rather than uranium, is expected to be safer than traditional reactors because the molten salt cools and solidifies quickly when exposed to the air, insulating the thorium, so that any potential leak would spill much less radiation into the surrounding environment compared with leaks from traditional reactors.

The prototype reactor is expected to be completed next month, with the first tests beginning as early as September. This will pave the way for the building of the first commercial reactor, slated for construction by 2030.

As this type of reactor doesn't require water, it will be able to operate in desert regions. The location of the first commercial reactor will be in the desert city of Wuwei, and the Chinese government has plans to build more across the sparsely populated deserts and plains of western China, as well as up to 30 in countries involved in China's "Belt and Road" initiative — a global investment program that will see China invest in the infrastructure of 70 countries.

(Excerpt) Read more at livescience.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Reference; Science
KEYWORDS: china; nuclear; reactor; thorium
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To: Celtic Conservative

While we have safety standards, I think that is a poor reason for not having such a plant in the USA.


61 posted on 07/28/2021 5:39:48 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: DuncanWaring

In the first 4000 feet from center it is a 3% survival rate.

And yes, Chernobyl will be dangerously radioactive for 10,000 years because the contaminated area is much larger.

Come back to me when it and Fukushima are cleaned up & paid off.


62 posted on 07/28/2021 7:53:12 PM PDT by Kevmo (Right now there are 500 political prisoners in Washington, DC.)
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To: dynachrome

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63 posted on 07/28/2021 8:06:38 PM PDT by Cedar
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To: BwanaNdege

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64 posted on 07/28/2021 11:19:21 PM PDT by Kevmo (Right now there are 500 political prisoners in Washington, DC.)
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To: Kevmo

Those who died within 4000’ of the Hiroshima blast died of burns/vaporization.

I find no references to radioactive material at Chernobyl other than cesium-137 and strontium-90; both have half-lives around 30 years.

Meaning that in 1000 years they will have decayed to roughly one-billionth of their current levels.

Do you have any references to longer half-life isotopes than those? If not, your claim of “dangerously radioactive for 10,000 years” is specious fear-mongering.


65 posted on 07/29/2021 5:28:58 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

First, let’s cover the obvious. Hiroshima was a nuke bomb INTENDED to do maximum damage from one fission bomb. Chernobyl was an Industrial accident Not Intended to have so much damage. Hiroshima is not a very good analogy for industrialized nuke fission.

Second, those who died, died. There were very few survivors which was exactly what I wrote in response to your POS snarky post.

Third, just because you find no references to sumthin doesn’t mean — by a far cry— that the data doesn’t exist. There are none so blind as those who refuse to see, especially those who climb over the dead bodies of victims waving their agenda flag.

Fourth, just look at the simple google result on my post just prior to this one. The result is dozens of references to the TWENTY thousand years of dangerous levels of radioactivity.

Fifth, I aint playing your game. You think Chernobyl is safe, then move there and post from there. The land is very cheap.

6th, there is nothing specious about the dangers of the 3 nuclear accidents so far at Fukushima, 3 mile island, and Chernobyl. It is PROOF that fission is a dangerous approach. It’s also proof that jerks like you will never acknowledge the OBVIOUS dangers. Clean up your mess before asking us to luve in more of it.


66 posted on 07/29/2021 7:33:28 AM PDT by Kevmo (Right now there are 500 political prisoners in Washington, DC.)
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To: Kevmo

What’s the radioactive isotope there that’s still going to be highly-radioactive for another 10,000 years?

The only two I’ve found mentioned will be decayed to effectively nothing in a tenth of your “10,000 years!”.


67 posted on 07/29/2021 7:55:04 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Go ahead and clear out those dangerous conditions, dude. Not just 10,000 years but 20,000 years. When it’s clean and safe enough for ordinary people who aren’t as aggressively hidebound as you, then get back to me about which particular isotope is so friggen important to you.

Then we can get past the “only 2 you have mentioned”. There are dozens more isotopes that you have not mentioned so ... just get lost. You’re completely disingenuous.


68 posted on 07/29/2021 9:34:00 AM PDT by Kevmo (Right now there are 500 political prisoners in Washington, DC.)
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To: Kevmo

There are dozens more isotopes that you have not mentioned so ...


You’re right.

There are others.

Name one that’s got a half-life longer than 50 years.


69 posted on 07/29/2021 9:44:03 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

No. I will not play fetch for you, troll.

Come back and play this game after you jerks have cleaned up 3Mile Island, Fukushima, and Chernobyl.


70 posted on 07/29/2021 9:58:21 AM PDT by Kevmo (Right now there are 500 political prisoners in Washington, DC.)
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To: DuncanWaring

When it’s clean and safe enough for ordinary people who aren’t as aggressively hidebound as you, then get back to me about which particular isotope is so friggen important to you.


71 posted on 07/29/2021 9:59:04 AM PDT by Kevmo (Right now there are 500 political prisoners in Washington, DC.)
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To: Kevmo

In other words, you’re admitting you’re mindlessly parroting the anti-nuke propaganda about “highly-radioactive for countless millennia”, since you can’t name a single isotope produced by any of those events that will remain significantly radioactive for anywhere near the “10,000 years” you shriek about.

Some of the stories claim “20,000 years”. Why don’t you use that figure?


72 posted on 07/29/2021 10:04:22 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

In other words, you’re just a troll.

Come back to us when you clean up your shiite.


73 posted on 07/29/2021 10:12:00 AM PDT by Kevmo (Right now there are 500 political prisoners in Washington, DC.)
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To: Kevmo

You’re making wild, fantastic, sensational claims, I show how you’re factually wrong, and you call me the troll?

Amusing.


74 posted on 07/29/2021 10:26:18 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Clean up your mess first, troll. Then come talk to us about how grand fission is.


75 posted on 07/29/2021 10:35:53 AM PDT by Kevmo (Right now there are 500 political prisoners in Washington, DC.)
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To: Kevmo

I’m not saying fission never makes quite the mess.

I’m saying the mess doesn’t last anywhere near 10,000 years.


76 posted on 07/29/2021 11:04:41 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Then by all means... get those thousands of hits on google fixed.

You won’t do it. Too much work. You want all of US to change our factual diagnosis just because it’s you, some anonymous dude on da internet.

Best of luck with dat.


77 posted on 07/29/2021 2:12:45 PM PDT by Kevmo (Right now there are 500 political prisoners in Washington, DC.)
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To: Kevmo

Google?

You’re actually relying on the Ministry of Truth?


78 posted on 07/29/2021 2:13:48 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

I sure as hell aint relying on YOU.


79 posted on 07/29/2021 3:06:28 PM PDT by Kevmo (Right now there are 500 political prisoners in Washington, DC.)
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To: Kevmo

You really don’t understand the concept of “half-life”, do you?


80 posted on 07/29/2021 3:07:32 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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