Posted on 07/27/2021 6:23:11 PM PDT by blueplum
Coronavirus infections are happening among vaccinated people. They’re going to keep happening as long as the virus is with us, and we’re nowhere close to beating it. When a virus has so thoroughly infiltrated the human population, post-vaccination infections become an arithmetic inevitability. As much as we’d like to think otherwise, being vaccinated does not mean being done with SARS-CoV-2.
Post-vaccination infections, or breakthroughs, might occasionally turn symptomatic, but they aren’t shameful or aberrant. They also aren’t proof that the shots are failing. These cases are, on average, gentler and less symptomatic; faster-resolving, with less virus lingering—and, it appears, less likely to pass the pathogen on. ...
...To understand the anatomy of a breakthrough case, it’s helpful to think of the human body as a castle....
...Without vaccination, the castle’s defenders have no idea an attack is coming....Vaccination completely rewrites the beginning, middle, and end of this story. COVID-19 shots act as confidential informants, who pass around intel on the pathogen within the castle walls. With that info, defensive cells can patrol the building’s borders...When the virus attempts to force its way in, it will hit “backup layer after backup layer” of defense, Bhattacharya told me.
Prepped by a vaccine, immune reinforcements will be marshaled to the fore much faster—within days of an invasion, sometimes much less....
.... our shots shouldn’t be faulted for failing to live up to an impossible standard—one that obscures what they are able to accomplish. A breached stronghold is not necessarily a defeated stronghold; any castle that arms itself in advance will be in a better position than it was before.
(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...
Ha! So true!
It’s like these poor vax’d fools are trying to bargain, now.
This shot is literally the “Mark Of The Beast”.
a refreshing breath of sanity for a change
Yeah.....from The Atlantic.....for the unhinged.
I consider freepers pretty knowledgeable but I get your sarcasm.
Similarly, if I have somebody who says we need to use the media to hype a medical countermeasure which is in fact the injection of a synthetic, recombinant chimeric protein developed off of a computer simulation, I’m actually going to listen to the motivation for why that might be being done; I will listen to the person doing the manipulation who says investors will follow where they see profit.
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And just to add insult to injury that computer simulation relied on data from China. CHINA!!!
We should really trust China? Not me. SMH.
I don’t think you are being naive for not wanting to have you or your daughters vaxed. I’m 70, and being treated for about 4 different (co-morbiditys) and I still wouldn’t get that shot even if the Army came to give it to me. They could kill me maybe, but not vaccinate me. If you have any doubts about doing this, please think it over again. If one of your daughters had a serious reaction to the shot, or even died, and you made them take it, you could never forgive yourself and no one else would or should forgive you. They are teenagers, let them decide for themselves.
I’m waiting for the patents to expire so I can get the generic shot. I don’t take any medications that haven’t been around for at least 30 years.
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That’s exactly the way I am. Only even then I’m not likely to take this one.
I’ll wait for the generic shot that is based on inactivated virus - not this bio-tech shot.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/mrna.html
https://ucsdnews.ucsd.edu/feature/qa-are-covid-19-vaccines-safe-and-effective
While I was in the waiting mode on the various shots the push began going into higher gear.....that was enough for me to hesitate getting any of them. So I continued to wait....then other reports continued to clash with others so that it looked like none of the so called experts knew what was going on....and it still looks like that. ....therefore I have to agree this is all experimental with a whole lot of wishful thinking going on.
The vaccine industry is pure evil and fraudulent
Every single thing they say is a lie
Bank on it
There’s simply no other conclusion you can come to
When you read this 100+ year history of this horrible awful industry
The vaccine industry is pure evil and fraudulent
Every single thing they say is a lie
Bank on it
There’s simply no other conclusion you can come to
When you read this 100+ year history of this horrible awful industry
Sabin Sugar cube:
Dr. Salk testified before a Senate subcommittee in 1977 that the oral polio vaccine had caused most of the polio cases in the U.S. since the early 1960s.
The OPV can not only trigger vaccine-strain polio in recipients, it can also cause polio in those who come in contact with recently vaccinated individuals due to shedding of live vaccine-strain poliovirus in bodily fluids.
At least you didn’t get a shot in the arm. I was in the first group for the mass roll out of the rushed Salk polio vaccine.
Our school was a lucky one. However other groups were not so lucky. Due to contamination at Cutter Lab, two hundred and twenty thousand individuals—in five Western and mid-Western states were injected with a bad batch(half of the shots administered).
Salk’s vaccine had caused seventy thousand cases of muscle weakness, one hundred and sixty-four cases of severe paralysis and ten deaths. Three fourths (75 percent) of the victims remained paralyzed for the rest of their lives.
But at least they suspended the program, investigated and made adjustments to prevent what had happened.
Of course, the next year and several thereafter, there was contamination with SV40. It only took TPTB about 50 years to admit that had happened. Every one at my school that took the Vax that year got sick and spent the afternoon throwing up-not sure if that was related to the SV40 or not.
The SV40 contaminated stocks of Salk polio vaccine were never withdrawn from the market but continued to be given to American children until early 1963 with full knowledge of federal health agencies. Between 1955 and early 1963, nearly 100 million American children had been given polio vaccine contaminated with the monkey virus, SV40.
The health agencies oversight ain’t all that we would like it to be.
A freeper referring to an article in The Atlantic as a “refreshing breath of sanity”?? Are you f’ing kidding me? 🤣🤣🤣
So very sad.
History appears to be repeating itself.
Praying this insanity stops, soon.
Agree.
Cue the WTF mullet wig guy.
Sanity is defined by consensus.
Sanity is defined by consensus.
Okay.....and, the FR Vax Peddlers are definitely in the minority.
our shots shouldn’t be faulted for failing to live up to an impossible standard—one that obscures what they are able to accomplish. A breached stronghold is not necessarily a defeated stronghold; any castle that arms itself in advance will be in a better position than it was before.
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Snort. What a load of crap. The existing vaccines are worthless for building durable immunity since the data is that the nucleocapsid section, which the vaccines do not code, is where most of the pre-existing resistance against serious disease resides.
81% of the population in fact does have some existing immunity and further, that immunity is strengthened, materially so, by natural infection.
Inactivated vaccines, without the spike protein being present they would likely have a similar risk profile to the seasonal flu shot instead of being 100 or more times as dangerous and at the same time they would have provided durable protection that all of the current shots do not because they omit said nucleocapsid sequences on purpose.
Anyone under the age of 50 with no co-morbidity would have been better off to get the disease as the odds of being seriously harmed are statistically zero yet that would perfect the person’s immunity and from a public health perspective you want those people who are not going to be seriously harmed to get it naturally, because it is that perfection of immunity that stops the disease from being of harm to the public on a durable basis.
A shrinking minority.
CONCLUSION: Vaccines have their place but so do our amazingly complex, sophisticated, highly effective immune systems which have evolved over millennia to protect us from a world teeming with trillions of pathogens.
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https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3563/rr-6
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T-cells really are the superstars in fighting COVID-19 - but why are some of us so poor at making them?
Dear Editor,
Thank you to Dr Doshi for raising the profile of T-cells. Incidentally, German researchers found that a staggering 81% of individuals had pre-existing T-cells that cross-react with SARS-CoV-2 epitopes [1].
This fits with modelling in May by Imperial College’s Professor Friston, a world authority in mathematical modelling of complex dynamic biological systems, indicating that around 80% and 50% of the German and UK populations, respectively, are resistant to COVID-19:
https://unherd.com/2020/06/karl-friston-up-to-80-not-even-susceptible-to...
Antibodies can only latch onto and help destroy pathogens outside cells and may also occasionally, paradoxically, enhance a pathogen’s ability to infect cell instead by antibody dependent ”enhancement” or ADE.
It is only the T-cell that can cleverly sense and destroy pathogens inside infected cells using “sensors” which detect foreign protein fragments.
In the late 60’s the Lancet described a case of a child with agammaglobulinemia, a condition in which absence of B cells prevent them from producing antibodies, who overcame a measles infection quite normally and did not become re-infected thereafter.
We now know that, although this condition can compromise immunity, in that particular case the rest of the immune functions, including T-cells, must have been perfectly up to the job of clearing infection and establishing immune memory without help from antibodies.
The importance of T-cells in fighting SARS-CoV-1 and establishing immune memory has also been well documented and discussed in a number of pre-COVID papers from 2017 and earlier [2].
Then, early in April, it was reported that two patients with agammaglobulinemia overcame COVID-19 infections without requiring ventilation [3], prompting the Italian authors to write: “This observation suggests that T‐cell response is probably important for immune protection against the virus, while B‐cell response might be unessential”.
All this should have shifted the focus of efforts towards T-cells at an early stage - the real question is why mainstream media and others continued to focus efforts and narrative on antibodies.
Is it because vaccines are good at provoking antibody responses but not so great at generating T-cells? Some of the vaccines presently under trial do elicit some T-cells but it seems that neither the quantity nor variety are hugely impressive.
Does this matter? Apparently so: Research establishments including Yale found that in mild or asymptomatic cases, many T-cells are produced. These were highly varied, responding not just to parts of the Spike, S protein or Receptor Binding Domain but to many other parts of the virus [1, 4-6].
Notably, in these mild cases there were few or no detectable antibodies. Conversely, the severely ill produced few T-cells with less variety but had plenty of antibodies. What is also of interest is that men produced fewer T-cells than women, and unlike women, their T-cell response reduced with age [7].
So why are some people unable to mount a good protective T-cell response? The key to this question might be a 10-year-old Danish study led by Carsten Geisler, head of the Department of International Health, Immunology and Microbiology at the University of Copenhagen [8].
Geisler noted that “When a T cell is exposed to a foreign pathogen, it extends a signaling device or ‘antenna’ known as a vitamin D receptor, with which it searches for vitamin D,”, and if there is an inadequate vitamin D level, “they won’t even begin to mobilize.”
In other words, adequate vitamin D is critically important for the activation of T-cells from their inactive naïve state.
The question of whether T-cells might also need a continuing supply of vitamin D to prevent the T-cell exhaustion and apoptosis observed in some serious COVID-19 cases [9] deserves further research.
High levels of vitamin D are also critical for first line immune defences including physical mucosal defences, human antiviral production, modulating cytokines, reducing blood clotting and a whole host of other important immune system functions [10].
The obese, diabetics and people of BAME origin are far more deficient in vitamin D and men have lower levels than women [10].
Another intriguing clue is that Japan has the highest proportion of elderly on the planet but despite lack of lockdowns, little mask wearing and high population densities in cities, it escaped with few COVID deaths.
Could this, at least in part, be because of extraordinarily high vitamin D levels of over 30 ng/ml in 95% of the active elderly [11]?
By comparison, UK average levels are below 20ng/ml [10]. Vitamin D is made in the skin from the action of UV sunlight, food usually being a poor source, but the Japanese diet includes unusually high levels.
Sunny countries near the equator (e.g. Nigeria, Singapore, Sri Lanka) also have very low COVID related deaths.
The results of the first vitamin D intervention double blind RCT for COVID was published on 29 August by researchers in Córdoba, Spain.
This very well conducted study produced spectacular outcomes for the vitamin D group (n=50), virtually eliminating the need for ICU (reducing it by 96%) and eliminating deaths (8% in the n=26 control group).
Although this was a small trial, the ICU results are so dramatic that they are statistically highly significant [12].
Substantially more vitamin D is required for optimal immune function than for bone health. It seems Dr Fauci is not ignorant of this, having apparently confirmed on TV and by email that he takes 6,000 IU daily!
(see Dr John Campbell on YouTube Vitamin D and pandemic science, 16 September 2020). Meanwhile the US’s health body continues to recommend only 600-800 IU and the UK’s, only 400 IU.
It is high time for joined up solid scientific rationale to overthrow mainstream narratives based on an alternative “science” controlled by industry interests/politics.
Beda M Stadler, the former Director of the Institute for Immunology at the University of Bern, a biologist and Professor Emeritus, certainly appears to think so (see Ivor Cummins Ep91 Emeritus Professor of Immunology...Reveals Crucial Viral Immunity Reality on YouTube, 28 July 2020).
In the same way that prior infections protect us against future infections by means of cross-reacting T-cells, overcoming COVID-19 naturally offers potential for greater protection against future coronaviruses.
Vaccines have their place but so do our amazingly complex, sophisticated, highly effective immune systems which have evolved over millennia to protect us from a world teeming with trillions of pathogens.
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