Posted on 07/27/2021 10:18:46 AM PDT by BenLurkin
It wasn't immediately clear how many people were aboard the Bombardier CL 600. The Federal Aviation Administration said the aircraft crashed at 1:18 p.m. on Monday while the pilot was attempting to land at nearby Truckee-Tahoe Airport.
The owner of the aircraft and the flight plan were not immediately made public, although authorities later said it might have come from either Coeur d’Alene, Idaho or Florida.
The CL 600 is a multi-seat business jet with twin engines mounted on the rear fuselage and a distinctive T-shaped tail. The jet can hold as many as 14 passengers and two crew.
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T-tails do have a problem of the wings and fuselage blanking the elevator at high angles of attack. The elevators lose effectiveness.
When I read about a landing accident in the summer at a high altitude airport, I always think density altitude.
High altitude (thin air) + high temps (thinner air) = less lift at a given airspeed. This is why we use angle of attack indicators - but I don't know if this aircraft had AOA or if the pilot was using it.
My husband flew one of those all over the world. I went to Argentina, Greece, Hawaii on one. I loved that plane.
I miss BB.
Isaac Azimov did not like to fly, either.
Thanks for the post.
Sounds very likely to me. One of the best I knew was killed exactly that way....and another not quite so good as well.
I aged out long ago but I think that at one time maybe back in the 1980’s the airlines put pretty heavy restrictions on circling approaches because of the dangers
“What is AARF?”
The sound a dog makes.
Madden was not a fan either
Right now Tahoe/Reno is massively socked in with smoke from forest fires in the region. Many flights have been canceled or redirected, which is probably why they don’t know which aircraft it was.
Smoke and visibility probably related to this crash as well.
Yeah, it was that long ago that most airlines put heavy restrictions on CTL approaches in their company manuals. Too much history. Lots of former co-workers of mine told me about that and I took the advice to heart for my own flying.
But I don’t think the Wx was all that bad for this one, which means he was even less cautious. Think he just wanted wind on his nose. The track of his procedure turn in the hold looked perfect. Dude was just relaxed, having a great day, gonna land at TRK and get dinner on the lake probably. Just flubbed it...bad. Part 25 jet you never take for granted. Fly it to the numbers.
Which is all rather disconcerting. I was at the airport just a couple weeks ago, hanging out on the patio having lunch watching all the corporate iron go in and out. Great fun: clear blue mountain day, everyone happy, so different from the Bay Area and the constant yammering here. Was commiserating with my son that we no longer have our own sled to get in and out of TRK which we used to do routinely - hadda sell the money sink since it was no longer being used for revenue service.
Really sad. Crap like this shouldn’t happen at a beautiful place like Nueva Truckee. Town has really been developing nicely lately, used to be pretty run down for a ski town.
Terribly sad. Just a few weeks ago Lake Tahoe was in the news with the Celebrity Golf Tournament, always fun to watch. Most of players are duffers who make silly mistakes and laugh about it, but a few are very good. .Plane crash is something else.
I flew mine to the numbers regardless of the weather, and as for tight turns on final, good or bad weather, my turns were like I was flying a four engine jet,,,size 747.
My passengers would experience only four maneuvers.....up, down, right and left. very very carefully.
Not so true.....
But carry on.....
Amen
They might speculate that it came from the sky.
A friend of mine killed himself in a small Glasair some years back. He landed on a short gravel strip at Woodland, Washington. He rolled out to the end of the runway and swung the tail around and took off downwind on a short runway. Apparently he tried to pull the aircraft off before it was ready to fly, lost control and crashed into the trees beside the runway. The resulting fire was so intense, they had to identify him through dental records.
Piloting 101: You take off and land INTO THE WIND, especially on a short runway. If he had just taxied back to the other end of the runway to take off, he might still be here. It would have taken a couple of minutes more time to do the right thing.
The laws of physics apply and gravity is relentless.
Density altitude is a deadly killer. High altitude and hot temperatures greatly reduce lift over the wings. Truckee is high and gets quite hot in summer. Aircraft do not climb as well or respond as crisply in the thinner air caused by these conditions.
“The laws of physics apply and gravity is relentless.”
I am still grateful that gravity is the “weak force.”
I would hate to be at the mercy of what holds atoms together.
T-tails can stall out just like a regular wing giving you a nose down dive and when you’re close to the ground when it happens, well, umm, buhbye.
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