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Gas Engines, and the People Behind Them, Are Cast Aside for Electric Vehicles
WSJ ^ | 23 July 2021 | Mike Colias

Posted on 07/24/2021 9:01:09 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

He developed gasoline engines for family sedans as well as thunderous Nascar racing machines.

By last year, though, the excitement was gone. His projects were no longer about advancing the engine, just nursing along existing technology. All the buzz had shifted to electric vehicles. In December, Mr. Penkevich took early retirement at age 59.

“It’s been a fun ride,” said engineer Dave Lancaster, who spent 40 years working in engine development at General Motors Co. “But I think we’re coming into the homestretch for the conventional engine.”

Over the past several decades, auto makers in most years rolled out between 20 and 70 new engines globally, according to research firm IHS Markit. That number will fall below 10 this year, and then essentially go to zero, the research firm said.

“We don’t want to be left making the best buggy whips,”

For the UAW to prevail, workers would have to vote yes, and wages likely would be far lower than at a car factory. Other battery plants typically pay $15 to $18 an hour, compared with a top hourly wage of around $30 for a UAW-represented worker at an assembly plant.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: automotive; toast; uaw; unions
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To: DUMBGRUNT

In less than five years you won’t be able to own an EV, they will be lease only. The market is going to move upscale as the economy regresses. Think about where the elite want the economy and world social structure to move. Your independence is one of the first things that must be eliminated. At first in small steps and as the kleptocracy grows more secure in larger and larger steps.
Please stop and think about their plan and where it is going.


141 posted on 07/24/2021 3:08:02 PM PDT by .44 Special (Taimid Buacharch)
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To: fuzzylogic

Battery-powered tools aren’t EVs, and not a premonition of things to come. They’re a fad, and will disappear in time.


142 posted on 07/24/2021 3:08:11 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit..)
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To: When do we get liberated?

What’s an “Opelto”?


143 posted on 07/24/2021 3:09:55 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit..)
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To: PIF

Good points, but bear in mind that innovation may soon provide a means of transoortation that is independent of roads and bridges, yet capable of mass usage if necessary.

I am not about to discard collective efforts as often stupid in the way of intent and results.


144 posted on 07/24/2021 3:26:34 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (No audits. No peace.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

All this push for electric cars yet our food supply depends on diesel power. Do the anti fossil fuel fanatics understand that banning diesel fuel could mean empty grocery shelves and starvation? Converting tractors, combines and large trucks that plant harvest and haul grain to electric power has not even been attempted. Where in the middle of a farm field do you recharge your batteries? The electric pickups now being rolled out would be totally impractical for the typical tasks pickups need to perform on farms and ranches.


145 posted on 07/24/2021 3:30:23 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of people's money." Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

—”gasoline-powered transportation as we know it is going to fade. My opinion is that it should, but not out of concern for the environment. It’s just that we are endowed with creativity and resources far above what we have comprehended and employed thus far.”

On the money!

Our tools evolve!
Our lifestyle follows.
Occasionally held back by the Luddites and some progs.


146 posted on 07/24/2021 3:56:52 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

innovation may soon provide a means of transoortation that is independent of roads and bridges, yet capable of mass usage if necessary.

Sure, of course, naturally, right on, etc - right around the corner. Meanwhile, back to earth and the 5.5 trillion dollar “infrastructure” bill brings 18 century technological innovation into the present. See the California multi-billion dollar high speed train to nowhere with no demand.

Of course, you could always take up James Clerk Maxwell’s 200 quaternions in which, at least one, postulates being able to step from any one point in the Universe to any other with free energy. Maybe you’d be less appalled then Oliver Heaviside and not discard 196 of them, or at least convert four more of them to vector equations, like he did; that gave us everything we know about the electromagnetic spectrum and A. Einstein and N. Tesla ... if you are fortunate enough to find a copy of his original work.


147 posted on 07/24/2021 4:13:10 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: The Great RJ

—”Do the anti fossil fuel fanatics understand that banning diesel fuel could mean empty grocery shelves “

You don’t have to be a weatherman...
Bigger and heavier, the electric is more tractable.
Not many steam trains left?

John Deere: ‘We believe in electric tractors. 100%’
https://www.futurefarming.com/Machinery/Articles/2020/3/John-Deere-We-believe-in-electric-tractors-100-552869E/

Cat D7E Electric Drive Dozer
Expected to move 25% more material per gallon of fuel, improve productivity 10% and reduce lifetime operating costs 10% compared to D7R Series II
https://www.forconstructionpros.com/equipment/earthmoving/product/10090645/caterpillar-cat-d7e-electric-drive-tractor

And much longer transmission life!

—” totally impractical for the typical tasks pickups need to perform on farms and ranches.”

Only a mini ranch here... and my pickup almost never left the two-county area, maybe a hundred miles to pick up something; usually as a favor.


148 posted on 07/24/2021 4:14:45 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Sorry, don’t know what a Ford(ICE) is. Please enlighten me.


149 posted on 07/24/2021 5:00:49 PM PDT by antidemoncrat (somRead more at: https://economicti)
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To: itsahoot

—”the Math that calculated the energy to drive 3 trillion miles”

Now that would be a hoot!

Very few here ao FR will accept the MATH projections for future global warming; How is that different from miles driven ten years hence?
The old cliche, figures don’t lie, but liars figure.


150 posted on 07/24/2021 5:01:53 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: antidemoncrat

Internal combustion engine ICE


151 posted on 07/24/2021 5:02:34 PM PDT by deport ( )
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To: Organic Panic

“Everything not forbidden is compulsory.”


152 posted on 07/24/2021 5:04:01 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: beef
Air less tires
153 posted on 07/24/2021 5:08:34 PM PDT by deport ( )
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To: Renfrew

Personal knowledge from working the numbers?


154 posted on 07/24/2021 6:02:43 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: Renfrew

That’s why the Chinese are going strong with electric cars powered by hundreds of new coal fired power plants. They are limiting oil consumption, or perhaps diverting it to their military. They don’t give a sh*t about climate change.


155 posted on 07/24/2021 6:06:09 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: antidemoncrat

Ford(ICE)

Ford Internal Combustion Engine

NOT a Ford EV.


156 posted on 07/24/2021 6:18:54 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: Alberta's Child

For the California power strain they had in June, they asked people not to charge their cars between 5 and 10 PM, and that was with the low number of electric cars they have now. I’d love it if they could get them to where they can be ubiquitous, and we’re getting closer, but even without the power grid issues and the long-haul driving issues, we’re not there yet.


157 posted on 07/24/2021 6:49:08 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

If our Democrat govt really believed in climate change, they would be building dozens of nuke power plants in the US and carpet bombing the hundreds of new coal plants in China.


158 posted on 07/24/2021 6:53:21 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: DUMBGRUNT

You didn’t have insurance? Why do other drivers want everyone else to have insurance too? In case you haven’t checked, insurance is a scam. My insurance pays for your damage, yours pays for mine? But I only have minimal coverage, you have full coverage. Same as if I had none really, if you want to fix a car and provide insurance for injuries. Wait a minute, don’t you already have insurance for injuries?


159 posted on 07/24/2021 9:35:31 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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To: cableguymn

Gas vs batteries. Gas wins.
1 gallon vs 139 cans (video)(battery) that represent the energy equivalent. Gas is 13x more energy dense then batteries.
Gas takes up less space then batteries. 50x less space energy equivalent. Leaf battery pack was over 600lbs while 1 gallon of gas weighs in at 6lbs that has more energy then that battery pack.

Why Gas Engines Are Far From Dead - Biggest EV Problems
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hatav_Rdnno


160 posted on 07/24/2021 11:41:54 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (I need more money. )
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