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To: AndyTheBear

Not sure I agree with you. Not an expert just trying to keep up. But they never said the vaccines would prevent infection or spread. They just said it would reduce risk of severe illness.

Which in and of itself, barring all other questions and concerns, would be a good thing.

But IMO we should fully expect positive tests to rise even among the vaccinated. If the Delta variant is as transmissible and potent as they say, then expect it to spread even among the vaccinated. Ideally, no big deal. I am of two minds. The vaccinated should, in theory, have reduced risk of severe infection. So should the previously infected. On the other hand, viruses that kill their hosts die with them. So Delta may be more transmissible but is it more deadly?


14 posted on 07/22/2021 10:25:20 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: monkeyshine
But they never said the vaccines would prevent infection or spread.

Who is “they” that you keep referring to? Last night that bumbling, drooling nursing home escapee that the media claims is “president” announced on live television that vaccinated people do not get COVID. PERIOD.

18 posted on 07/22/2021 10:35:11 PM PDT by Tipllub
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To: monkeyshine
I don't agree with myself either in the sense of depending on my own understanding of what is expected. I simply farmed the responsibility as to what was expected to what looks like a main stream explanation found on a web search about testing positive after one gets the vaccine.

And I am just reflecting the expectations from that page, figuring it is better than my own.

19 posted on 07/22/2021 10:35:34 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: monkeyshine

https://www.fda.gov/media/144245/download

On November 20, 2020, Pfizer and BioNTech (the Sponsor) submitted an Emergency Use
Authorization (EUA) request to FDA for an investigational COVID-19 vaccine (BNT162b2)
intended to PREVENT COVID-19 caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2
(SARS-CoV-2). The vaccine is based on the SARS-CoV-2 spike glycoprotein (S) antigen
encoded by RNA and formulated in lipid nanoparticles (LNPs). The proposed use under an EUA
is “for active immunization for the PREVENTION of COVID-19 caused by SARS-CoV-2 in
individuals 16 years of age and older.”


27 posted on 07/22/2021 10:54:31 PM PDT by roving
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To: monkeyshine
” But they never said the vaccines would prevent infection or spread. They just said it would reduce risk of severe illness.”

If that is the case, then why don’t they promote building healthy immune systems with Vitamin C, D3, and zinc, etc.? Why do they forbid us to use long trusted medications like HCQ and Ivermectin? Having a healthy immune system has the same or better results in fighting the virus as the jab does.

41 posted on 07/23/2021 3:08:29 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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