“Natural immunity is stronger and provides superior protection from variants”
I would be keenly interested to read the science reports behind your statement please provide the sources of your assertions. All the data coming from Israel who have the highest levels of Mrna relative to total population shows a significantly higher rate of effectiveness for vaccinated vs unvaccinated. They also have multiple peer reviewed titer antibodies studies that show six to.twelve times the killer antibodies levels for Mrna vaxed vs recovered cases. So please provide your sources we would all.benefit from seeing them.
You are on the wrong forum.
Eh, not quite.
But cool misleading swap between recovered and unvaccinated.
Fortunately, we have an actual Israeli here who recovered from
Covid and knows the Israeli policy was to forbid recovered persons from getting the vaccine for a long while … and now it’s discouraged and we are treated as vaccinated for all purposes.
And BTW: The Covid recovered have 6.75X less chance of getting delta vs the vaccinated.
The data seems to show that the highly vaccinated countries are getting covid.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3976936/posts
60% of hospital admissions are now double jabbed victims.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3977410/posts
where is your data?
Highlights
• Antibody responses after SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccination target RBD, NTD, and S2
• SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccination induces a high rate of non-neutralizing antibodies
• Crossreactive antibodies to seasonal β-coronaviruses are induced by vaccination
• Variant mutation N501Y enhances affinity to human ACE2 while E484K reduces it
Pay attention to these points when you read the paper
• SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccination induces a high rate of non-neutralizing antibodies
• Crossreactive antibodies to seasonal β-coronaviruses are induced by vaccination
Natural immunity to this type of virus is proven to last over a decade.
There are zero studies proving the mRNA treatments provide more than a year of immunity.
Here’s the cite:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z
Here is another demonstrating the superiority of natural antibodies
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2021/06/30/science.abh1766
The information out of Israel in regards to the delta variant,( which does not differentiate between naturally immune vs not immune unvacinated), tells a different story. The vaccines are what the call “leaky” and non sterilizing. This was warned about early on. Pay attention to the efficacy of the vacines against the variants. If you want the Israeli data you have use google translate to change it from hebrew, as well as a huge amount of formatting.
Vaccine efficacy dropped with delta Scottish data:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)01358-1/fulltext
Public Health England Delta Data:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1001358/Variants_of_Concern_VOC_Technical_Briefing_18.pdf
Reinfection rate is 0.0086% for covid recovered:
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/309762
Natural immunity studies:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/ebiom/article/PIIS2352-3964(21)00203-6/fulltext
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/371/6529/eabf4063.full
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(21)00141-3/fulltext
https://t.co/1TjsUyHgPp
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.20.21255670v1
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/lasting-immunity-found-after-recovery-covid-19
https://t.co/UGsh13veNB?amp=1
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2034545?s=09
https://www.cell.com/immunity/fulltext/S1074-7613(21)00168-0
https://t.co/4iENCuJqIq?amp=1
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.28.441880v1
https://t.co/Bzi1nbHzvq?amp=1 https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/t-cells-recognize-recent-sars-cov-2-variants
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03647-4
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2590136220300231#s0030
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.01.21258176v2
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.19.21255739v1.full
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03647-4
Variant protection with natural immunity:
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/t-cells-recognize-recent-sars-cov-2-variants
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.28.441880v1.full
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7885937/
The vaccine may not protect you from variants:
https://t.co/8xVkm6Le2Q
https://t.co/M3hJzJt6MX
https://t.co/QVAnPWRgbG
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)01290-3/fulltext?hss_channel=tw-27013292
https://doctors4covidethics.org/covid-vaccine-necessity-efficacy-and-safety/
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/03/210304133502.htm
medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.11.21256578v1
How many examples of people catching covid 2 times vs “breakthrough” cases have we seen?