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Apple Music Boss Says 98 Percent of People Can’t Identify Lossless Audio
Audio Media International ^ | 17 JUNE 2021 | Libby Plummer

Posted on 07/21/2021 12:40:29 AM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: goodnesswins
Where do you get the “tube” equipment repaired? We have a player, but it’s broken.

There are people that do that work, you might google "tube equipment repair" and see if there's anyone in your area doing that work.

I have a friend who does restorations of older equipment as an "under the table" business, but he's east coast, so that won't help you. After 50 or more years, the old stuff needs more that just repair, they often have to be rebuilt with everything that is prone to failure replaced (mostly capacitors).

Be aware that the work can run into a considerable amount of money, and you can easily spend more than the equipment is worth to do the job right.

81 posted on 07/22/2021 4:15:19 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Der Impfstoff macht frei.)
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To: nickcarraway
Doesn't bluetooth earbuds compress the audio anyway?

-PJ

82 posted on 07/22/2021 4:21:09 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (* LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Ikeon

For most people, and especially those of us who spent a fair amount of time at concerts with the like of Led, Rush, Hendrix, et al… and other heavy players… our ears aren’t, sadly, as sensitive and finely tuned as they once were. And recently for me, a malfunction with hearing protection at an indoor range dinged one my ears enough that even flushing a toilet gets it a ringing.

So no, at this stage of the game, lossless audio may not, I say again MAY not make that impressionable a difference.

Although, I once knew that it did.

As for mobile devices, I’ll give Apple their due. They’ve put a lot research and money behind bringing hi end audio and video to those “cheap” mobile devices.

Their music catalog now offers losses audio with Dolby ATMOS. AirPod Pros, for what they are offer impressive sound and noise canceling. Over the ear, studio quality? Um, no. But still impressive.


83 posted on 07/22/2021 4:44:34 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: AFreeBird

Thanks for the insight. I also suffer from hearing loss but not so bad I cant tell the difference between fm and even a crappy album on a decent turn tabel. As for listening to your phone. I never intended to imply a phone speaker was anything near good speakers or good headphones.


84 posted on 07/22/2021 4:57:43 PM PDT by Ikeon (Not knowing the truth doesn't make you ignorant, not wanting the truth does. )
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To: A Navy Vet; CodeToad; Salamander; Psalm 73; Neverlift
What I'm talking about is difference between an LP mastered in analog vs. a USB with MP3s or a Spotify streams or a CD track. I don't jack about digital data transfer systems. But I record live and performed music in both formats. I play as well. I can tell the difference in them, just as I can a tube amp and its fuzz from a solid state rig. It just sounds dry and not quite as full in frequency response. This excerpt will explain it better than I can.

(...Analog versus digital music: Is there a difference? First I want to talk about how analog and digital music works. While there are many complicated factors involved, in a nutshell here are the basics between the two:

Analog music represents the actual, continuous sound waves generated by the artists and their equipment (in most cases, but sometimes records are based upon digital recordings being converted back to analog format), recorded on vinyl as grooves via metal stampers or on cassettes as magnetic impulses.Every time a record or cassette is played a physical toll is taken upon it due to friction, wear and tear. Over time the sound quality will deteriorate.

Furthermore, the sound is generally better at the beginning of a vinyl recording as opposed to the end, because the smaller circumference can impact the ability of the record needle to follow the groove with 100% accuracy. And for those of us who grew up in the 1970's, the "crackle and pop" factor of records - not to mention the proverbial skipping or looping the same few seconds of music over and over - could be quite distracting.

Digital music is a COPY of analog music and it is not a continuous recording. Rather, the sounds are captured using samples (generally several thousand times per second). For instance, a CD is usually sampled at a rate of about 44.1 kHz, which translates to over 44,000 times a second, but sampling levels can run higher. The music is recorded in bits of information; a CD will usually feature 16-bit music, and as with sampling more bits can be used for better quality. The bit rate (the amount of data played per second) is also a factor; CDs often play at 128 Kbps, but this can increase as well. There is also a factor of compression; shrinking the music file to fit on the medium for which it is intended, which can impact playback. However, a type of compression called "lossless" is intended to combat this...")

I can't seem to construct a link but the source article is. https://www.techrepublic.com/article/analog-versus-digital-music-is-there-a-difference/

85 posted on 07/22/2021 5:52:42 PM PDT by Free in Texas (Celebrate diversity. Own firearms of every caliber. )
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To: Ikeon

Well, since you ax, yes I know there’s a banjo in Take It Easy.

More to your point, do you know there’s a banjo in Rhapsody in Blue? It’s true. I don’t think that I’d know from listening, myself, but it’s there. Check out a live performance next time you get a chance. There it is, just like George Gershwin wrote it.


86 posted on 07/22/2021 6:00:51 PM PDT by OKSooner (Salute the Marines.)
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To: rarestia; Fresh Wind

Thank you


87 posted on 07/22/2021 6:22:34 PM PDT by goodnesswins (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution." -- Saul Alinksy)
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To: Free in Texas

The big difference between analog and digital is that analog allows signals that digital often rejects. A high frequency and high resolution digital can be perfection, but the typical CD/MP3 type of digital is too low of a sampling and too low of a resolution, meaning the bits that describe an instance in time are too low to allow the analog harmonics to come through. So, most corporate boom-boom garbage is fine at digital rates, but finer music of great string playing won’t come through in digital unless sampled at a higher frequency and at a higher resolution.


88 posted on 07/22/2021 7:20:13 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: Aqua225
... and everything is clear until your speaker coils melt.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!

89 posted on 07/22/2021 7:23:46 PM PDT by Fury
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To: Rocco DiPippo

I spent much of my life on a flightline around jet engines. The old Close & Play record players would be good enough for MY ears! Cheers to those who can still hear clearly....


90 posted on 07/22/2021 7:26:18 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: CodeToad

From a recording perspective digital is very convenient because the recording stations are very compact. From an instrument amplification perspective digital can be used anywhere that you won’t clip or distort the amp. Analog or tube distortion is a beautiful rich warm fuzz. Digital distortion sounds like a cheap ass effects box.IMHO.


91 posted on 07/22/2021 7:43:48 PM PDT by Free in Texas (Celebrate diversity. Own firearms of every caliber. )
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To: Free in Texas

Without question. Guitar players usually prefer tubes versus solid state. I’m not a string player but I have heard the differences. I am finding digital music to be flat. I am contemplating going back to the LP again.


92 posted on 07/22/2021 7:46:26 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: Mr Rogers
"I spent much of my life on a flightline around jet engines."

HA! Thinking the same - I used to test-run jet engines (production engine-test facility), and my ears are shot, too.

I think with me (I'm 63) I'm more just wedded to the nostalgia of putting a record on my turntable.

Although sometimes I swear I can tell the difference between, say a Brian Eno or King Crimson CD and some of my old vinyl records of the same.

93 posted on 07/23/2021 3:55:37 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again" - J. Hendrix)
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To: A Navy Vet

Make a “cloud” for the ceiling. You can build one in such a way for it to be pleasing to the eye. Here’s what I discovered while figuring out how to treat my studio: If you can hear reflections, that’s very bad because they’re obviously muddying up what’s coming out of your speakers, but at least they’re obvious. But the other stuff, standing waves, dropouts and exaggerations are just as bad. Trust me - after building and then installing corner bass traps my room, which already sounded pretty good, sounds amazing. The soundstage opened up, I could hear every bass note without “boominess” and clarity and coherence improved. The proof was that mixdowns translated great - car stereo, boombox, earbuds etc. My mixes now sound great on everything without having to constantly tweak this and that to get them sounding good on all playback devices. A quick tip: If you do install corner traps, try to allow a space between the trap and the wall. Essentially doubles effectiveness. But trust me - it’s the stuff you can’t hear that’ll mess up clarity more than the reflections you can hear. After you deal with that, your jaw will hit the floor.


94 posted on 07/25/2021 2:44:51 AM PDT by Rocco DiPippo
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