Posted on 07/17/2021 8:01:45 PM PDT by Tipllub
The effectiveness of the Pfizer vaccine against the Delta variant is “weaker” than health officials had hoped, Prime Minister Naftali Bennett said on Friday, as over 1,000 people tested positive for coronavirus and more countries were added to the list of places to which Israelis will be banned from traveling.
“We do not know exactly to what degree the vaccine helps, but it is significantly less,” Bennett said.
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Agreed. Wake me up when the survival rate becomes something other than 98%. I’m not discounting the fact that a horrific number of people have died, but focusing on cases seems idiotic.
So where are the bodies?
My husband tested positive and had mid level flu symptoms 5 days before I started having symptoms.
I live in Northern CA. Mid size city, Santa Rosa.
Neither I nor my husband were vaccinated.
I was not vaccinated.
They did not test for the type of covid.
I was given remdesivir, (Drs thought it was given too late), steroids, blood thinner, 1 treatment of antibody blood plasma (probably helped the most), pepcic ac, constant oxygen for really low oxygen saturation #’s.
I had covid pneumonia.
Thank you for answering my questions. I live in MO and much attention is being given to ‘new’ positives in the southwestern portion of the state. Strangely, the COVID, now called ‘delta’ has been found in wastewater treatment facilities all across the state since May..
I pray for your continued recovery…
Thank you
Key words in your post are “should have”.
The problem is we just don’t know.
Would the vaccine have prevented me from getting covid or getting really sick? Who knows.
Did I get the variant and the vaccine is useless against it?
If I received the vaccine when it first came out, are the antibodies still viable now???
See, the problem is none of these theories are tested. It is way too early for definitive statements.
Like now, should I get a vaccine for something I had? How long do my natural antibodies last?
If I get the vaccine, will I get pneumonia again? Or will it trigger heart problems? How will my body respond to having a covid type virus back in my system?
I will not now or ever say I should have gotten the vaccine.
I will not advocate for others to get it.
We have and are being fed theories and lies scattered among some truths.
The problem is right now, we just don’t know.
Thank you for your well wishes.
No, I was not vaccinated.
I said 'should have' instead of 'would have' because the efficacy rate of the mRNA vaccines is only about ~ 92%. Even at 99.9% I would have said 'should have' :)
Would the vaccine have prevented me from getting covid or getting really sick? Who knows.
Yes, very likely, assuming it was not the Delta variant which is not very widespread as of now or around the time you got infected. You know how I know ? Of all the treatments you were given the only thing you responded well to was the antibody blood plasma. Had you been vaccinated you wouldn't have needed antibody infusion because they would have already been there - your own antibodies in your own plasma. Unlike some elderly people with comorbodities whose bodies couldn't fight the virus despite being vaccinated, you are young and in good health with no comorbidities. Your antibodies would have been there with guns locked and loaded and would have started attacking the virus from the moment you got infected.
As for your question if the antibodies would have lasted long enough since vaccination - they last at least 6-8 months based on data (we only have that many months' data), but likely longer. But even if they didn't you would have had 'immune memory' from your vaccination and new antibodies would have been created by the antibody factories (your memory B cells) fairly quickly - faster than an unvaccinated person getting infected.
See, the problem is none of these theories are tested.
Well.. that's not true. The vaccines have been tested in large scale clinical trials (phase 1 and phase 2) involving tens of thousands of participants across the world. That's where the 92% effectiveness number comes from. In fact the clinical trials are why it took so long for the vaccines to get rolled out , which was around November of last year. The vaccine itself was ready in march or so but the FDA couldn't approve them for emergency use without large scale trials deeming them safe and effective. And 92% is a pretty darn good number. If you are wondering how they could be considered 'safe' because of the blood clot and heart inflammation issues -which are real - those numbers are so extremely small in relation to the percentage of people who had no problems with the vaccines that it's considered within the margin of safety for emergency use. And besides, most of those side effects occur with the Astra Zeneca which is not approved in the US.
The other proof that the vaccines work is the drastic reduction in the number of covid cases following the start of vaccination - *which is holding* - despite no masking or distancing mandates in much of the US. It was true in Israel too, the most vaccinated country in the world. Then of course the Delta variant came along and the vaccines appear to be not as effective but still effective enough to prevent severe illness and death. Regardless of which variant you were infected with it would have at least prevented severe illness. And all the suffering that went with it.
Like now, should I get a vaccine for something I had?
A test should tell you which variant you had. If you had the original Covid you are obviously protected from it for the foreseeable future , but be aware those antibodies don't necessarily protect you from the Delta variant which can almost be considered a separate disease.
If I get the vaccine, will I get pneumonia again? Or will it trigger heart problems? How will my body respond to having a covid type virus back in my system?
The only vaccine you could possibly benefit from at this point is for the Delta variant -- which does not exist yet. So that's not something you have to worry about.
The reason this virus is a scam is that it is easily, effectively, inexpensive and SAFELY treated.
The Doctor I went to has now treated over 6,000 patients, almost all recover at home with a illness that is less severe the earlier you treat it.
The reason you didn't use these supplements and drugs is that fraud Fauci lied about the history of the only prescription drug that is used to treat C-19.
HCQ+Zn work together to get zinc into the cell where this OTC suppliement prevents the virus from replicating. EARLY TREATMMENTS WORK.
Dr. Fareed testified before the US Senate and YOUTUBE took the video down. For the virus scam and their passport silliness to work, there had to be no available treatments. Because there are effective treatments, Fauci and his co-conspirators intentionally killed thousands and thousands of people.
If you don't believe that over 6,000 people treated with almost a 100% success rate proves it works, then your family, friends and neighbors can go through what you just experienced.
I chose the HCQ+Zn+amtoboptoc route after I lost smell and taste in addition to some typical flu symptoms. It's really cheap and it surely beats going to the ICU and nearly dying.
ARTICLE George Fareed and Dr. Brian Tyson share early treatment protocol
These doctors have added ivermectin and other vitamins to their treatment plan since I was treated. They also list a preventative OTC plan which might have even prented you from getting sick.
Key to believing any of this is understanding that the DEEP STATE intentionally killed thousands of Americans to win. IF you don't believe they are lying to you daily, then you are probably not going to survive the coming storm.
Most everything you have said is theory at this point.
These vaccines are labeled as emergency use.
They are not fully tested in any way that other vaccines have been.
You didn’t even go near the questions of how long the vaccine antibodies or natural antibodies last. We do not know. Do you need a vaccine booster? If so when?
Look. If you feel ok taking a foreign substance into your body that has harmed people, killed lab animals, and is not fully tested for safety and efficacy...go right ahead.
But stop throwing out theories as facts and expect others to eat it up like candy.
Keep in mind the above is coming from a person who almost died from this manufactured virus. My husband was sick from it as well, just not as bad.
I value my life and his greatly. I do not make my decisions lightly.
We have been lied to and there are still many questions to be answered.
I do believe they are lying. I never said I didn’t.
I am just telling my story.
👍And I’ll just add that It was known that HCQ was effective against SARS which is genetically almost the same as SARS COV-2 and-— Quackster Fauci knew it - NIH documented it around 15 years ago or so. And the US stockpiled it for future use.
How do you define "full testing" ? Do you know how clinical trials work ?
the vaccinated are still getting the COVID related variants... Even the newly and improved elected prime minister declared ‘vaccination’ are NOT the answer.
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And he is correct -—The existing vaccines are worthless for building perfected immunity since the data is that the nucleocapsid section, which the vaccines do not code, is where most of the pre-existing resistance against serious disease resides.
They chose the spike instead of the nucleocapsid. That was a mistake. Which they should have taken a little more time to figure out first.
Link to study: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41590-020-00808-x.pdf
The spikes were the easiest target to go after for an *emergency use* drug. They were a juicy target because they were so prominently expressed on the surface and in great number. That’s how the vaccine could be created in such a short a time. The emphasis is on the word “emergency”. The pandemic *was* an emergency - it was EXPLODING across the world and even though the death percentage was small ( ~2%) , because of the sheer number of people it was infecting and so little was known about it because it was a new disease, that number was expected to be in the millions - which as of now it is. Something had to be done to stem the tide. Something fast.
Trials take years.
Don’t be ridiculous.
These vaccines have not been fully tested. You, if you have taken one of these vaccines, are a test subject in the “trials”.
Look. You obviously have a bias towards the vaccines being good.
You refuse to look at anything reasonable which doesn’t solidify your confirmation bias.
Great. You do you.
But I am tired of this conversation.
God Bless
Something to stem the tide — like maybe treating patients instead of telling them to go home and come back when they needed to be hospitalized?
There are no excuses for these SOBs.
Did Quackster Fauci EVER issue guidelines for treatment, or ways to prevent, like Vit D3, zinc, etc. etc.? Or since the NIH had previously advised that HCQ was a good treatment for SARS Cov-1 and the USA had stockpiled some - did he EVER admit it was a good treatment when used in combination with zinc, zpak and used early? Heck NO. Continues to lie to this day.
And it was known that the spike was going to be dangerous, and the study that showed that it would not do a good job and that it was the nucleocapsid reactivity that provides effective resistance to serious disease was done prior to the first JAB.
It is also a downright lie that this was a new and “novel” virus. As has now been well documented through tracing of patents, as well as determining that some 80% of people have some form of immunity already.
Further more this virus is almost identical to SAR Cov-1. So all this angst and supposed “have to rush” is pure unmitigated lying.
No excuses for these lying SOBs - They should be arrested and tried for their crimes.
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