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To: Levy78

I don’t even know anyone who died of the bug. My great aunt (94) was in hospice for pancreatic cancer and when her family got the death certificate back, the cause of death was ‘Covid,’ which was later explained as a ‘clerical error’ and amended. I know a few people who were hospitalized, a couple for a considerable period of time. But, they all made it...and all were over 60 with preexisting conditions.

I’m going to go out on a limb here and suggest that 630K have NOT died of COVID and 50K have not died of the COVID vaccine. We now live in an age where hyperbole is the currency of political discourse.


7 posted on 07/16/2021 6:11:18 AM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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To: ScubaDiver

Covid killed my 90 year old grandmother last October. She had a lot of Comorbidity.


11 posted on 07/16/2021 6:16:31 AM PDT by Levy78
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To: ScubaDiver; Enlightened1; Safrguns; Levy78; nuconvert; Chauncey Gardiner; redgolum; V_TWIN; ...
My main issue is that I simply don't believe the statistics used by many to justify the administration and mandating of the vaccine as well as the industry shutdowns.

If mortality rate is: DIED FROM PATHOGEN / INFECTED WITH PATHOGEN and they say it is between 2-3%, I have major issues with that.

I cannot confirm it myself, but I don't trust the DIED FROM PATHOGEN number in the numerator of that fraction. Of people who died from COVID, how many actually died from the pathogen itself, rather than other medical issues or complications? I have suspicions that this number is overinflated, perhaps vastly overinflated.

So that is the numerator.

I also have serious doubts about the denominator, the INFECTED WITH PATHOGEN. I firmly believe two things: that the test itself to determine if someone is infected is inaccurate (perhaps both fundamentally and in its administration) and that we have no idea how many people have actually been infected with the virus.

In a famous case, Elon Musk got tested four times in one day, same person, same kit, with two coming back positive and two coming back negative. That tells me the test is useless.

The inaccuracy is either from the inability of the test to reliably produce results, or it is so dependent on the training of the person to administer it correctly that it is unreliable. I believe there are two tests, the Rapid Antigen Test and the PCR test. PCR test is supposed to be more reliable.) But the question is, what tests that show infection are used in the denominator of that mortality rate fraction? All PCR? All Rapid Antigen? Both? What mix? And add onto that, the likely vast number of people who were infected and felt little or no symptoms and were never tested? That would drive the denominator far, FAR higher, and make the pathogen far less lethal.

In summary, I trust the denominator value far less.

The point is, we don't know.

But apparently we know enough to shut an entire economy down and destroy it, bankrupt people and put them out of business, destroy the education of our children and drive up the drug abuse rates and suicide rates in this country, and trample the rights of citizens by unconstitutionally mandating vaccinations as is happening now.

45 posted on 07/16/2021 7:34:33 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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To: ScubaDiver

[[[[I don’t even know anyone who died of the bug.]]]]

My 73 year old neighbor who was trim and in good health. The same for a 72 year old friend who lasted 3 days. 34 year old cousin of another neighbor. Mom of my tenant’s girlfriend 54 who lasted a couple months and finally succumbed. She was heavy though. All were just before vaccines were widely available.

A doctor told me the single biggest comorbidity factor she has seen in patient deaths is obesity in various degrees. She saw patients with other health problems but not obese pull through with very little trouble.

I’m thinking pre-diabetes and diabetes is the big factor.


47 posted on 07/16/2021 7:38:31 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Socialism- Institutionalized Deprivation)
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To: ScubaDiver

I think your instincts are correct. We live in an age of information obfuscation. It’s hard to know what is really true on certain things. COVID ‘cases’ are wrong, we know the PCR tests amplify to the point of ridiculous and provide false positives, resulting in pure fear porn. COVID ‘deaths’ include those that died from motorcycle incidents, as they ‘had COVID’ - all based on PCR tests. It’s absurd and has been used to control everyone. If anyone had any doubts as to how quickly tyrants show their true colors I’d hope they can see things far more clearly now, although way too many still have their head in the sand.

Governments are using this ‘emergency’ to assert authority and condition the populace as to what ‘they will allow’ and will let you know ‘what rights you now have in this new normal’ as though it is their decision. How many times have we heard ‘we will follow the science’? lol...there’s no science going on here. Masks don’t work, there’s zero evidence they can produce. Lockdowns don’t work, again, zero evidence. Suspiciously only big business was allowed, but I’m sure there’s nothing corrupt about that :)

This has been the biggest lie ever told. Yes, COVID exists. Yes, people will die - BUT overwhelmingly only old people with other issues. Pushing this onto the young is CRIMINAL, the risks far outweigh the reward. Big pharma only gets paid when somebody gets a shot. This is ALL about profits at this point, everyone that wanted a shot has taken it - so now it must be pushed, let the fear porn continue. Watching different countries and their policies has been highly disturbing. Places like Australia, UK, Canada - places you’d usually associate with ‘free country’ - have gone completely tyrant and people are still putting up with it. Just ‘3 weeks to flatten the curve’ right?

...enter from left the new ‘Delta++++’ variant. Let the lies continue. Ping me when we get to the OMEGA version. ;p


52 posted on 07/16/2021 7:47:08 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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