I can answer all of your questions. However, it has been my experience with those who are opposed to the mRNA vaccine to find some flaw in my wording and use it to destroy the entire narrative. This is what is called the composition fallacy: something is true of the whole from the fact that it is true of some part of the whole. A trivial example might be: “This tire is made of rubber, therefore the vehicle of which it is a part is also made of rubber.
You asked: “why did they say that hydroxychloroquine, & ivermectin were not only ancedotal, but dangerous to use, when they knew damn well that they both were not only safe, but also effective against coronaviruses? , & ivermectin were not only ancedotal, but dangerous to use, when they knew damn well that they both were not only safe, but also effective against coronaviruses?”
Answer: When people first began using HCQ and Ivermectin for COVID infection, both were being used for treatments for other diseases. Those diseases were not viral infections. HCQ works by killing the organisms that cause malaria and it also to treat rheumatoid arthritis and systemic lupus erythematosus by decreasing the activity of the immune system. Even though it showed promise in treating COVID not much was understood how zinc played an important part in its effectiveness against COVID.
Medical science is very methodical and each step of the analyses must be thoroughly made. People on the outside can get very frustrated when the answers seem so obvious. In my mind, HCQ allowed a pathway for the zinc to enter the cell where it interfered with the transcription process. HCQ may also interfere with the docking process with the ACE-II receptor. That had to happen early on in the infection, before the virus was able to trigger the cytokine storm, which kills the victim. All the workings of HCQ had to be understood perfectly, so they can know how to use it. And everyone wanted FDA approval for it at warp speed. I am not sure, even now, if my doctor knows what the proper dose I should take if I ever needed it for Covid.
The U.S. government should have financed the clinical trials for HCQ and Ivermectin early on, but they trusted that the vaccine producers could have a better solution with their vaccines. Ivermectin is now in clinical trials. It is just that methodical thinking which many don’t understand.
I talked to my doctor about Ivermectin. He said I could not get a prescription for it through the Kaiser Permanente system. None of the doctors would prescribe it because it is still in clinical trials. How can that be? Ivermectin is having miraculous results in other parts of the world. Medical science is very methodical. They learned during the 80s when the malpractice lawsuits were epidemic, that increased caution in medical treatment was essential. Malpractice insurance went sky high. I suspect that lawsuits against Phizer and Moderna are in the works right now.
No, I am not a Dem. I have been a Republican since Richard Nixon. I have been an elected Republican Precinct Officer for 17 years and have risen to be GOP Vice Chair of my legislative district. My understanding of the virus and the vaccines has been a self-taught hobby. I still have a lot to learn. Nothing is 100% perfect for me. The harsh treatment I get when FReepers get mad because it is not in line with the anti-vaxx narrative is a good thing. When I am fighting against the Leftnicks in the Seattle area, I need to be tough.
Why do they want a 100% vaccination of the population?
Answer: They want to take the virus to the same place that they took Measles, Mumps, Smallpox, Polio, Chicken Pox,Tetanus, Hepatitis B (soon to be eliminated in the U.S.), Hepatitis A (soon to be eliminated in the U.S.), Rubella, Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib), Whooping Cough, Pneumococcal Disease, Haemophilus influenzae type b, and Diphtheria. Vaccines have been one of the greatest accomplishments of mankind. I can hardly wait to see how this mRNA/lipid nanoparticle technology plays out in personalized cancer vaccines and other diseases, now in clinical trials.
The Covid vaccines have shown their effectiveness with the New Delta Variant striking only unvaccinated people. I could have used the word “mostly” but this is how it is being described. If this new strain lacks the morbidity, that would be good because of the natural immunity effect.
They had many other off label uses, and they were safe for even pregnant and nursing females. As for medical science, they ignored a lot of it, and even lied on other topics that medical science, such as the total lack of effectiveness of mask wearing with viruses. Which we found out from Mr. Medical Science himself, Fake Fauci, from his emails. As for the mRNA "vaccine" we have even less medical science showing its effectiveness or safety of its usage. Nice try, but further propaganda. what position do you hold in the Biden Administration?
In my mind, HCQ allowed a pathway for the zinc to enter the cell where it interfered with the transcription process. HCQ may also interfere with the docking process with the ACE-II receptor. That had to happen early on in the infection, before the virus was able to trigger the cytokine storm, which kills the victim. All the workings of HCQ had to be understood perfectly, so they can know how to use it. And everyone wanted FDA approval for it at warp speed. I am not sure, even now, if my doctor knows what the proper dose I should take if I ever needed it for Covid.
In your mind you have it wrong. Read the reality:
The U.S. government should have financed the clinical trials for HCQ and Ivermectin early on, but they trusted that the vaccine producers could have a better solution with their vaccines. Ivermectin is now in clinical trials. It is just that methodical thinking which many don’t understand.
They knew already, they lied because there was no money in this safe & effective tool to combat the novel coronavirus. The vaccine became important to free the people from the draconian measures being enacted in Democrat states, and apparently you fell for it hook, line, & sinker because you apparently were so afraid, thought you understood medical science, and were obvious to the scam they were running on us.
But the real important aspect, is that they know now, and the people who did studies to make the case that it was dangerous, have been thoroughly debunked. However, they still refuse to allow them to be used to combat the virus via their doctors, and insist on "vaccines" that have caused many to experience either debilitating conditions to death of people of all ages in all types of physical conditions prior to taking the jab, yet they are still pushing the unproven "vaccines". Wake up my FRiend.
I talked to my doctor about Ivermectin. He said I could not get a prescription for it through the Kaiser Permanente system. None of the doctors would prescribe it because it is still in clinical trials. How can that be? Ivermectin is having miraculous results in other parts of the world. Medical science is very methodical. They learned during the 80s when the malpractice lawsuits were epidemic, that increased caution in medical treatment was essential. Malpractice insurance went sky high. I suspect that lawsuits against Phizer and Moderna are in the works right now
You need to find another doctor, and quickly. Because the manufactures and everyone prescribing and promoting the "vaccines" are not subject to lawsuits, because we are in the midst of the largest "vaccine" trial ever carried out in the country, no, made that the world. Again, wake up, but more importantly learn that you are not nearly as smart as you believe yourself to be, when it comes to this virus or these "vaccines"because you have not researched this as completely as many others on this board have done. You got your "vaccines" and you didn't have magnets stick to you. What a lame & stuoid retort you offered my FRiend.
No, I am not a Dem. I have been a Republican since Richard Nixon. I have been an elected Republican Precinct Officer for 17 years and have risen to be GOP Vice Chair of my legislative district. My understanding of the virus and the vaccines has been a self-taught hobby. I still have a lot to learn. Nothing is 100% perfect for me. The harsh treatment I get when FReepers get mad because it is not in line with the anti-vaxx narrative is a good thing. When I am fighting against the Leftnicks in the Seattle area, I need to be tough.
So you are a RINO, even worse. Did you hate Donald J. Trump like the rest of the RINOs?
Answer: They want to take the virus to the same place that they took Measles, Mumps, Smallpox, Polio, Chicken Pox,Tetanus, Hepatitis B (soon to be eliminated in the U.S.), Hepatitis A (soon to be eliminated in the U.S.), Rubella, Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib), Whooping Cough, Pneumococcal Disease, Haemophilus influenzae type b, and Diphtheria. Vaccines have been one of the greatest accomplishments of mankind. I can hardly wait to see how this mRNA/lipid nanoparticle technology plays out in personalized cancer vaccines and other diseases, now in clinical trials.
The Covid vaccines have shown their effectiveness with the New Delta Variant striking only unvaccinated people. I could have used the word “mostly” but this is how it is being described. If this new strain lacks the morbidity, that would be good because of the natural immunity effect.
Yeah, that is why there have been more deaths from people who have taken the "vaccines" than those who haven't taken any "vaccine". So there is no proof the "vaccines" have had a positive or negative effect on the virus.
obvious should be oblivious