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Could We Be Wrong About Ivermectin And COVID-19? To either promote the use or drive a stake into the heart of the Ivermectins of the world, we really need a well-designed study
American Council on Science and Health ^ | 07/09/2021 | Chuck Dinerstein, MD, MBA

Posted on 07/09/2021 8:01:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: phoneman08

RE: My 91-year-old mother in hospice care for lung failure caught it last March. Before I could find a doctor willing to prescribe hydroxychloroquine, she was over it (two days).

My point exactly, see Post #14 above.

And thank God for your Mom’s recovery.


21 posted on 07/09/2021 8:56:24 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Reno89519

nailed it


22 posted on 07/09/2021 8:56:37 AM PDT by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom; SeekAndFind

The model found that:
• An efficacious response to anti-virals was only found when given within 12 hours of the onset of symptoms;
Well, how do you like that? Nobody ever knew that the disease had to be treated early, did they? (/s)

Don’t these people EVER read prior research and analysis?


Unreal, isn’t it? What rock have they been hiding under?


23 posted on 07/09/2021 8:59:27 AM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: Reno89519

Answer me this, was the hostility to Ivermectin and other existing drugs simply because they would have undermined and prevented the Emergency Use Authorization (EUA)?

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Yes.

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I am increasingly concluding this was more important reason for the hostility, secondly, because Trump endorsed it.

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Welcome to the party, pal ;-)

Like Pres Trump has been saying, at his recent rallies and interviews....’maybe I should’ve said....take DON’T take HCQ or Ivermectin!!!’ ... then, these ‘experts’ would’ve insisted on it.

They wouldn’t have, though, because in order to get their EUA there had to be NO other treatments available. Thus, their bashing of said, effective treatments.


24 posted on 07/09/2021 9:02:38 AM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: SeekAndFind

The phrase “I could be wrong” is a very important one in discussing clinical aspects of COVID, including vaccination - and it’s one that you almost never hear around here.


25 posted on 07/09/2021 9:04:11 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice)
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To: SeekAndFind

India has had good results with Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine.


26 posted on 07/09/2021 9:09:58 AM PDT by Pajamajan ( PRAY FOR OUR NATION. I will never be a peaceful slave in a new Socialist America.)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

Ivermectin ping.
And thank you for posting.

There is a LOT to get excited and highly encouraged about.

If anyone here has a routine, schedule, or any knowledge on how often to take this pleas let me know.


Earlier I posted this,:

I have been researching and amazed of everything I am finding on ivermectin effects on cancer!!!!

Even on Government studies. Here are just an example:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8117216/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29511601/


27 posted on 07/09/2021 9:12:58 AM PDT by TianaHighrider (God bless President Trump. Prayers for PDJT and his loyal supporters.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

” assessed with PCR daily”

PCR takes 7 days to get results.


28 posted on 07/09/2021 9:14:49 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: SeekAndFind

Dare we hope that all men who take Ivermectin are saved? (That is, from being hospitalized or killed by the SARS-Cov-2 virus?)


29 posted on 07/09/2021 9:19:20 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: phoneman08

Thank you.

He was a great man. WWII vet, was an armorer and other things. He was in Patch’s 7th and Patton’s 3rd Armies.

He was a general contractor (residential and commercial) and he farmed all his life except the 2 years he was in Europe in WWII.

Glad your mother responded to HCQ and that you could find a doctor to prescribe it.

Think of the ones who could not find a doctor to help. Criminal is a mild word.


30 posted on 07/09/2021 9:21:15 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil
PCR takes 7 days to get results.

I guess that means it's not a real-time study?

Even if it takes 7 days to get a result, they can still correlate the results at the back-end when they get them with other measures that were taken, as long as they were all time-stamped.

-PJ

31 posted on 07/09/2021 9:39:35 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (* LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Reno89519

I’ve been following this closely enough, long enough ago, that I bought some Ivermectin last November and took some prophylactically in December and January due to the case spikes. I am absolutely convinced it was for those reasons. Nothing else explains it.


32 posted on 07/09/2021 9:41:46 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: high info voter

Don’t leave out Big Tech, they’ve been a huge part of the suppression.

This is an ongoing crime against humanity.


33 posted on 07/09/2021 9:45:08 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: SeekAndFind

The numbers for Ivermectin are out there.

https://ivmmeta.com/


34 posted on 07/09/2021 9:52:19 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Texas Fossil

Truly the greatest generation. Men like your father are inspirational.

Regarding my Mom, she was actually able to beat it with nothing other than Tylenol and had shook it off before I could find a doc to prescribe hydroxy. Had I succeeded, I’d to this day have sworn it made the difference.


35 posted on 07/09/2021 10:00:24 AM PDT by phoneman08 (qwiyrqweopigradfdz oncm,.dadfjl,dz )
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To: SeekAndFind

Just think.... if Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine, zinc, D3, etc. were promoted, made easily available, from the start, how many lives would have been saved?

How many health problems would have been avoided?

The killer jabs would never have been necessary or even produced.

Side effects next to ZERO!

The response to the COVID pandemic = TRAVESTY!

Trump was RIGHT in the beginning. Then he got rolled by Fauci and the scarf. Now he is responsible for the deadly warp speed vaccines. Trump’s biggest mistake, now he/we have to live with it.

(NOT BLAMING TRUMP! Just the facts, ma’am, Just the facts)


36 posted on 07/09/2021 10:23:14 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: Political Junkie Too

I don’t believe any to the stats that the Experts have given us.

I don’t believe any of the crap about them not recommending HCQ and Ivermectin because is was dangerous or unproven.

I don’t believe the expert’s motives in this are about public healthy. It is far worse than that.

So, here we are.


37 posted on 07/09/2021 10:38:02 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil
I believe you.

-PJ

38 posted on 07/09/2021 10:40:45 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (* LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Pajamajan; ransomnote; Jane Long; bitt; bagster; numberonepal; Cletus.D.Yokel; Cathi

https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2021/06/india-could-sentence-who-chief-scientist-to-death-for-misleading-over-ivermectin-and-killing-indians.html

India Could Sentence WHO Chief Scientist to Death for Misleading Over Ivermectin and Killing Indians
June 24, 2021 by Brian Wang
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The Indian Bar Association (IBA) sued WHO Chief Scientist Dr. Soumya Swaminathan on May 25, accusing her in a 71-point brief of causing the deaths of Indian citizens by misleading them about Ivermectin. There is also an updated legal notice on June 13, 2021.

Point 56 states, “That your misleading tweet on May 10, 2021, against the use of Ivermectin had the effect of the State of Tamil Nadu withdrawing Ivermectin from the protocol on May 11, 2021, just a day after the Tamil Nadu government had indicated the same for the treatment of COVID-19 patients.”


39 posted on 07/09/2021 3:40:35 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Fai Mao

“So, the drugs must be given basically as soon as symptoms appear, or they have no effect. Or am I reading that wrong?”

I think you have it right. HCQ and Ivermectin interfere with replication of the virus, they don’t attack it outright.

You want to give them early enough so that the virus doesn’t have time to create a huge viral load. If the viral load gets big enough they won’t be effective.

AFAIK HCQ is a zinc ionophore. Zinc does the actual work of interfering with replication, but it can’t cross cell membranes without an ionophore like HCQ or quercetin.

Ivermectin works in another manner, this paper describes how it may operate:

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapies/antiviral-therapy/ivermectin/


40 posted on 07/09/2021 3:56:27 PM PDT by Pelham (No more words, now we fight)
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