Posted on 07/09/2021 8:01:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Ping for your interest
So, the drugs must be given basically as soon as symptoms appear, or they have no effect
Or am I reading that wrong?
Well, how do you like that? Nobody ever knew that the disease had to be treated early, did they? (/s)
Don't these people EVER read prior research and analysis?
Ivermectin works. It works best at early stage. It worked for my 95 year old father back in December. He was sick and diagnosed with Covid. 1 tab 3 times per day for 3 days, with heavy D-3, Zinc and an antibiotic. He did a dramatic turn around. No symptoms by day 4.
He did die in March, of heart failure. He had a pacemaker (5 years), had quadruple bypass surgery long ago. He did not die from COVID.
HCQ also was helpful on some people.
The negative nattering nabob experts are responding to pressure from the top. It is not about public health, this pandemic is about Control and subjection.
RE: So, the drugs must be given basically as soon as symptoms appear, or they have no effect
Every single successful doctor who administers Hydroxychloroquine or Ivermectin for Covid-19 will tell you that EARLY treatment ( within 6 days of the appearance of symptoms or positive test ) is the key to rapid recovery.
Everyone, from Dr. Zelenko to Dr. Kory will tell you that.
Most of the so-called FAILED studies administer these drugs when the patient is already hospitalized. Yet, they will still work, but the results are MIXED.
It’s like applying cancer drugs or surgery to a cancer patient who is already in stage 4. The chances of recovery decreases substantially compared to doing these in stage 1 or 2.
“The model found that:
• An efficacious response to anti-virals was only found when given within 12 hours of the onset of symptoms; “
I say BS.
This is a long way from realistic portrayal of the effects of Ivermectin.
My 95 year old father was diagnosed with Covid 7 days after we took him to the doctor. (long term test positive)
He took Ivermectin, D-3, Zinc and an antibiotic. By day 4 there were no symptoms.
“The Model found” implies computer model. This is the real world. The rest is BS.
Answer me this, was the hostility to Ivermectin and other existing drugs simply because they would have undermined and prevented the Emergency Use Authorization (EUA)? I am increasingly concluding this was more important reason for the hostility, secondly, because Trump endorsed it.
Would like to see this guy go face-to-face with Dr Peter McCullough, Dr Pierre Kory, Dr Paul Marik, Dr Zev Zelenko
If he got covid and after 7 days of the current treatment offered by the establishment ( go home, take tylenol, go to hospital if you cant breathe)… gasping for breath,…. do you think he’d turn down 3 doses of a benign scabies drug that has cured thousands, just in the practices of a few doctors who use it?
Ivermectin ought to be one of the world’s biggest stories
Yes there have been trials
More trials than the vaxxxx being forced now on children
“The negative nattering nabob experts are responding to pressure from the top. It is not about public health, this pandemic is about Control and subjection.”
I really don’t understand how everyone doesn’t realize this by now. I can’t wrap my head around it. I won’t believe that people are willfully this stupid, so it’s either a very small percent of complete idiots, or they’re compliant and part of it at this point. I don’t see any other possibilities.
The EVMS MATH+ and I-MASK+ protocols (Drs Kory and Marik) call for early treatment with Ivermectin and other therapeutics, but they don’t define what “early” means in hours or days.
They provide a pre-exposure prophylaxis regimen, a post-exposure prophylaxis regimen and an early outpatient regimen. As you say, their protocols are efficacious over longer periods than the 12 hours mentioned in this paper.
I’m glad your dad was successfully treated; that’s great news. Did his doctor recommend that treatment? Or was it you pushing the doctor to prescribe it? Or did you administer it on your own?
Very sad that honest information was kept hidden from the world by the WHO, CDC and our government agencies, ...AND THE MSM!
Facts? Preventative supplements were out there, Vitamin D3, Vit. C, Zinc and Magnesium were out there for about 10 cents per day dosage. Hundreds of scientific reports verifying the positive and preventative effects were out there from medical experts and being reported.
Cures for the sickness were out there, also from medical experts. Ivermectin, Hydroxychloroquine and Remdesivir. Given when diagnosed with the Covid it is generally gone within a week.
RE: If he got covid and after 7 days of the current treatment offered by the establishment ( go home, take tylenol, go to hospital if you cant breathe)
That seems to be the Standard response from doctors if you are diagnosed with Covid - Take Tylenol and use standard flu treatment and cross your fingers that your immune system will take care of the rest.
In over 99% of the cases, such an advise actually works... the patient ultimately recovers. It is the tiny unfortunate minority we have to be concerned with ( that still amounts to tens of thousands of patients ).
And *THAT* is the problem as well — if a person takes Ivermectin or Hydroxycholorquine and recovers, most skeptical doctors will insist that the patient would have recovered anyway REGARDLESS of whether he took Ivermectin or HCQ or not.
I’ve spoke to too many such doctors, so I know their arguments.
My 91-year-old mother in hospice care for lung failure caught it last March. Before I could find a doctor willing to prescribe hydroxychloroquine, she was over it (two days).
Must have been the Tylenol.
Condolences on the passing of your father.
The excerpt and article clearly state this work is computer modeling of the viral loads in real patients:
"The researchers used a computer model of COVID-19 in which varying viral loads in a population would result in differing rates of infectivity...The model made use of real data on the changing viral load in 30 patients assessed with PCR daily."The author does raise an interesting point, though, about the many studies of IVM:
"The plethora of observational studies prompted by the pandemic have a fatal design flaw; they did not control the initiation of treatment. As a result, the number of participants needed to show a statistically significant effect would be about 11,000. If a study were restricted to those treated within 24 hours, the necessary number of participants would decrease to 450."I would put controlling the initiation of treatment into the "nice to have" category. There is plenty of real world evidence (RC Trials and Observational Studies) that show it works.
Well sure doc, but an “honest” trial/test will never be carried out.
And even if the results show that it works, the garden gnome will blather on about the “lack of efficacy” and the drones in the media and the public will shut all communications down.
These are the same people who totally blew off the statements of PRACTICING doctors about the improvements that their patients were experiencing with HCQ, not being cured, just helping with the symptoms, to follow lockstep with a medical bureaucrat who has no first hand experience with this issue.
This writer is a buffoon and probably a Fauci groupie.
Ivermectin works as preventive and at every stage of COVID.
then take as a prophylactic
That is true for HCQ+Zn. Ivermectin works at all stages.
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