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1 posted on 07/05/2021 9:05:16 PM PDT by MNDude
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Yeah, I tell you, we grew up with some real weirdos everywhere you looked…

The resident weirdo for the entire nation was Maynard G Krebs on “The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis.” He adopted the “beat” persona, but wasn’t that weird looking. But nobody dressed like a slob like that in the 50s and the first half of the 60s.

We had “greaser” culture that didn’t conform, but they were largely restricted to big cities…


77 posted on 07/05/2021 10:08:46 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“I’m not a conspiracy theorist....but, I don’t believe in coincidences, either.” ~ Steve Bannon)
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There were freaks, but they were called freaks then which made them at least attempt to limit their freakiness. Now freaks are called normal and people who aspire to be normal are called bigots.


78 posted on 07/05/2021 10:09:28 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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I think its gotten a lot worse in the last 10, especially the last 5 years.

10 years ago people got A tattoo. A young slut would get a tramp stamp on her lower back. Now, the're like some sort of vine that grows all over the body. People don't get A tattoo. They get tattooed - whole body sections done at a time. Can't do one on one leg without doing one on the other, etc, etc, etc

And that's just the parts of the body that show in public.

80 posted on 07/05/2021 10:14:19 PM PDT by mcenedo (lying liberal media, our most dangerous and powerful enemy)
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In some sections of some cities, sure. But the rest of the country wasn’t affected.


81 posted on 07/05/2021 10:16:44 PM PDT by x
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There have always been freaks, we just lost the necessary instinct to suppress their pathologies.


85 posted on 07/05/2021 10:28:38 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck ( COVID lockdowns are the Establishment's attack on the middle class and our Republic )
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First, let me say that people now thought of as “hippies” never used that word to describe themselves. People who looked like, say, the Allman Brothers, called themselves “freaks.” It was an entirely different usage of the word from the unfortunates who worked in carnival freak shows.

It signified a break from the “establishment” and its values, but even so, they weren’t as bad as the scumbags we have today.

Where I lived in the 50s and 60s, growing your hair out and trying to look like a freak would get the stuffing stomped out of you quite promptly.

Schools had dress codes, and they enforced them.

The freaks would say they grew their hair out and wore those clothes to express their freedom. In fact, freaks had uniform regulations that were as strict as the Marines.

Crosby, Stills, and Nash (don’t remember whether Young was with them or not) had a song called “Almost Cut My Hair” with a line that went, “I feel like letting my freak flag fly.” His hair was his “freak flag.” And it was a hard-core “us against them” mentality.

I went to concerts and freak hangouts, but I was not accepted by those people. It was kind of like a dog being able to sense bad intent—somehow they just knew I wasn’t one of them.

In general, they were much better educated than young people today. There were philosophical underpinnings to what they were doing. All BS, of course, but at least they had something. And for the most part they were not sympathetic to the hard left, although there were a few around.

As Frank Zappa sang sarcastically, it was all “peace, free love, flowers and beads.” Except not really. It was no utopia. There was hypocrisy, dishonesty, cruelty, selfishness, guys pimping out young runaways to middle-aged “straights” (which meant people who were not freaks)—I’m not sure there wasn’t more of it than among the “establishment” of which they were so critical.

The main thing to remember, perhaps, is that everything they thought and believed was wrong, but I don’t think it was as malevolent, as downright Satanic evil as what we face today.


87 posted on 07/05/2021 10:32:03 PM PDT by dsc (Abortion is the axe laid to the roots of the tree of human rights.)
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Although they were far from freaks and were the greatest patriots, the WWI Veterans who were burned and disfigured by the mustard gas were the scariest humans I saw as a young child.

I’ll never forget the pain I saw and felt when they entered the room.

Freaks in appearance only, but true Patriots underneath.

As a result, I try my best to look at the goodness in people’s souls rather than outward appearance. Some of the freaks have glowing hearts of gold and many of the glamorous have the darkest souls.

It is not mine to judge, as in doing so, I too will be judged. But still I faulter and fall short.


88 posted on 07/05/2021 10:32:41 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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asylums!!!


91 posted on 07/05/2021 10:38:49 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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Side Shows in
Circuses, Carnivals!!!


92 posted on 07/05/2021 10:41:00 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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Duck Tail haircuts slicked back with grease, peg legged jeans, white socks, penny loafers, and a white tee shirt with a pack of cigarettes rolled up in the sleeve. Cig hanging out of the mouth and only lit with a Zippo.
95 posted on 07/05/2021 10:49:46 PM PDT by ImpBill ("America - Where are you now?" The Uni-Party rulz!!!!)
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Beatniks were odd. Then The Beatles were a big shock.


97 posted on 07/05/2021 10:56:30 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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The Movie, FREAKS. 1932.
Like IDIOCRACY,
WE are Living in It.
God Help Us.


100 posted on 07/05/2021 11:03:14 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (Be Still and Know that I Am God. Rev 19)
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Yes - they were called ‘beatnicks’


104 posted on 07/05/2021 11:13:32 PM PDT by 11th_VA (Et Tu Fox ?)
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In the Eighties there were the Preppy and Yuppie looks. We used to joke our kids dressed better than we did. The decline started with men wearing an earring in the early Nineties (yes we laughed at how silly that looked), then came tattoos, and then everything went to hell. Men looked like slobs and girls looked like hookers, full of tattoos and piercings.


105 posted on 07/05/2021 11:16:27 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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We only saw them on TV - usually some news report on something going on in California.

There were zero freaks at our school-unless you count people in boots and cowboy hats-and the hats were left in the truck.


110 posted on 07/05/2021 11:37:09 PM PDT by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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Prior to 1960 the only place you saw freaks was at the side show of Ringling Brothers Barnum & Bailey Circus.


111 posted on 07/05/2021 11:41:14 PM PDT by .44 Special (Taimid Buacharch)
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Question for the old timers. Were there freaks in the old days?

I gather that there were - they were just confined to carnivals and mental institutions back then.
112 posted on 07/05/2021 11:59:42 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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Been around since 1940. I don’t remember “freaks” as described up through the 50’s. There were plenty of WW2 ex-GI’s with solitary bicep tatoos, and what I refer too as “Fonzi” or James Dean type punks and toughs. Leather jackets, low riding jeans, hobnail boots, duck’s ass haircuts etc. The closest thing these days would be Hell’s Angel etc bikers. Plenty of beatings, fist fights and general roughness but very, very rare shootings, stabbings etc. A “freak” in those days would have probably been humiliated if not beaten into conformity. It was an era when young men as a generalization were deeply into cars, sports and wait for it...girls! Overwhelmingly though, everyone male and female were “normal” as could be. That all changed in the 60’s.


113 posted on 07/06/2021 12:04:31 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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The difference between today’s freaks and those in 1he 1930s & 1940s & 1950s were that back then, even the freaks loved America and welcomed and observed the protection of Constitutional freedoms & liberties ...

Many many thousands of those “freaks” fought & died for their country in WWII & Korea...

Things/freaks didn’t go into the dumper until the 1960s when the “hate America” religion was established under the auspices of the U.S. communist party...

That “old” America is now over and the lights have gone off...


117 posted on 07/06/2021 12:39:51 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another Sam Adams now that we desperately need him?)
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I thought that was why San Fagsicko was created/made (with Nude Yawk right behind it).


120 posted on 07/06/2021 12:50:57 AM PDT by Bikkuri (If you're conservative, you're an "extremist." If you're liberal, you're an "activist.")
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