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Can Employers Require 'New Hires' To Show Proof Of COVID Vaccination As a Condition for Employment?--Updates Anyone?

Posted on 07/05/2021 7:48:28 PM PDT by Be Careful

Just wondering if anyone has current legal information.


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To: Spirit of Liberty

A urine analysis checking for drugs


41 posted on 07/05/2021 8:36:54 PM PDT by South Dakota (Patriotism is the new terrorism )
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To: Be Careful
This is only good for California, but we've been advised by counsel that the answer is "Yes", and that we are in fact required to ask if they are vaxed, and record the answer. Most companies in our industry have left the decision to vax or not vax to the individual though.
42 posted on 07/05/2021 8:38:07 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: ransomnote
Technically, it's not mandated by the CDC and can't be because it's experimental. In practice, companies are breaking the law just to force people up front, even if they have to back off later. I would fight it.
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While I agree with this, I have some additional thoughts. I have always looked at interviews as an exploration of whether the employer is going to be compatible with my philosophy and worthy of my time-at least half of my waking hours.

So I might have some questions along the lines of determining if they realize that it really is experimental. Are they aware of the variety and severity of the adverse effects?

Are they aware that coercion to force an experimental medical procedure is a violation of the Federal Law and Nuremberg protocols?

Do they know whether their Liability Insurance will pay for a lawsuit in case of an adverse event, for both the company and the individual ordering the Jab?

Then, I'd likely continue my job search elsewhere(depending on their answers). A company that would order me to submit to a medical experiment ain't worthy of my time and effort.

But that's just me.

43 posted on 07/05/2021 8:38:18 PM PDT by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

THEY make the rules in a private company.

The government is not involved.

I believe the government has already said that businesses who make their employees get the jab are not responsible for the side effects


44 posted on 07/05/2021 8:41:46 PM PDT by South Dakota (Patriotism is the new terrorism )
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To: Be Careful

Do your homework! Target Christian Conservative companies.


45 posted on 07/05/2021 8:43:05 PM PDT by Tommy Revolts
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To: South Dakota

That’s what what first popped in my head, but thought I better be sure. Never know when autocorrect will slap a wrong word in!

It depends on the job and employer whether or not someone, even a new hire, has to submit a piz quiz. When I was a truck driver, I had drug tests. As an office worker, I never have. Not even our new hires do.


46 posted on 07/05/2021 8:44:12 PM PDT by Spirit of Liberty (Idiots are of two kinds: those who try to be smart and those who think they are smart.)
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To: PROCON

Indeed, many of them are mine.


47 posted on 07/05/2021 8:44:15 PM PDT by budj (Combat vet, 2nd of three generations.)
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To: Be Careful

No they can’t. But they can require you to get vaccinated.


48 posted on 07/05/2021 8:46:32 PM PDT by moehoward (.)
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To: budj

Nice, Welcome Home, I wasn’t FA in Vietnam but I did serve there for a long year.


49 posted on 07/05/2021 8:46:52 PM PDT by PROCON (Our rights do not come from government, therefore they cannot take them away.)
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To: gas_dr; All
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50 posted on 07/05/2021 8:48:25 PM PDT by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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To: Be Careful

The presumption is that this ‘young person’ chooses to be in the ‘resistant’ category.

I would approach it like this: If such proclamations were not overtly delivered pre-interview, then clearly verbal questions about one’s status during the interview process are to avoid litigation.

If this young person does not seek conflict (litigation) or a hostile work environment, then certainly avoiding such businesses is rather academic if they proffer such requirements openly.

However, should the matter be raised only later in an interview, the ‘young person’ should be well practiced in response to such a privacy-violating question. I can hear myself responding with a question, “Can I have that in writing?” to which the obvious response to any objection would be, “I’ll provide my response in kind, in writing, as part of my PRIVATE personnel file.” It’s not argumentative and avoids all controversy regarding the legal status of the shots.

Frankly, I seriously doubt any firm trying to avoid the topic - and, in their view, a liability problem - will provide anything in writing at all...problem solved and a little interview experience gained :)

Truth be told, had my employer required the shots, I’d already have my own business (the logical conclusion to having been fired/laid off).

Frankly, part of me wishes that they had...


51 posted on 07/05/2021 8:49:18 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: musicman

Jut out of curiosity, do you ever communicate in your own thoughts and language? Or only cut and pasted memes?

Yawn.


52 posted on 07/05/2021 8:52:35 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: Be Careful

Robert Barnes has a big case coming up next month involving a bunch of union employees about this. Keep you eye on that one.


53 posted on 07/05/2021 9:01:00 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Controlling Legal Authority

Controlling Legal Authority wrote:


https://www.statnews.com/2021/02/23/federal-law-prohibits-employers-and-others-from-requiring-vaccination-with-a-covid-19-vaccine-distributed-under-an-eua/

Is that what the 170 employees of Houston Methodist Hospital are vasing their lawsuit on?

That hospital told all the employees they had to get the covid shots or be fired.


54 posted on 07/05/2021 9:02:41 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

Nope. The vaccine manufacturers have immunity, whether FDA approved or not.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/300aa-22

Oh, and SCOTUS has already ruled on issues related to the law.

Read BRUESEWITZ ET AL. v. WYETH LLC


55 posted on 07/05/2021 9:04:47 PM PDT by TexasGurl24
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To: Be Careful

multiple forms for employess, students, etc, freely available on Catherine Austin Fitts’ website. plus video.
(Fitts is an investment banker and former public official who served as managing director of Dillon, Read & Co. and as United States Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development for Housing during the Presidency of George H.W. Bush).

5 May: Solari: Employer & School Disclosure Forms for Covid-19 Injections
These forms were written by Corey Lynn of Corey’s Digs for The Solari Report. ~

Form for Employees Whose Employers Are Requiring Covid-19 Injections

This puts employers in a box. This is a form every employee who is faced with this needs to submit to the authorized officer of their company. It is 100% legally accurate, forces them to respond to your questions (already on the form for you), provide you with all requirements by the FDA, makes them review all of the ways they are breaking the law, and holds them 100% financially responsible, requiring a signature.

Link to the form (LINK)

Read the complete disclosure here (LINK)...
https://home.solari.com/employer-school-disclosure-form-for-covid-19-injections/


56 posted on 07/05/2021 9:05:27 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: Be Careful

In a nut shell: you don’t have much in the way of legal recourse.

Vaccine mandates are evil, vile, immoral and anti-American. Look for companies that have American ideals and reject those that embrace Marxist collectivism.

In the event that you have no choice, there are ways around the vaccine mandates.

Tyrants are not entitled to obedience or compliance.


57 posted on 07/05/2021 9:13:36 PM PDT by TexasGurl24
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To: Be Careful

Do they inquire about any STD’s one has had? How could they inquire of vaxx status.


58 posted on 07/05/2021 9:51:13 PM PDT by exnavy (grow some thick skin, i do not care for whiners)
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To: Be Careful

Private companies can do what they want. I’ve had to show proof of many vaccinations when working for a hospital.

There is no freedom regarding stuff like this. Companies are not the government.


59 posted on 07/05/2021 9:59:43 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: ransomnote

There would be nothing to fight. You simply wouldn’t get hired.


60 posted on 07/05/2021 10:00:43 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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