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To: foundedonpurpose

“Can someone help me understand how the are going to get the extra electrical generation for all of the required charging of said vehicles”

The useful thing is the amount of new generating capacity required if the whole country move to EVs is essentially zero.

Currently every power plant runs at about 20% capacity overnight. If EVs are charged on timers they don’t need anything more than the existing spare capacity.


10 posted on 07/03/2021 10:28:07 AM PDT by Renfrew
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To: Renfrew

...and all the local transformers melt. They weren’t designed for these loads if everyone is charging together.


14 posted on 07/03/2021 10:33:17 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Renfrew
Currently every power plant runs at about 20% capacity overnight. If EVs are charged on timers they don’t need anything more than the existing spare capacity.

I don't know if that's true. especially on summer nights.

But beyond that, power plants need energy sources to generate electricity. Your response doesn't address that.

Most EV'ers don't.

16 posted on 07/03/2021 10:41:52 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Renfrew

Solar runs at zero capacity overnight.....


20 posted on 07/03/2021 10:57:52 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: Renfrew; foundedonpurpose
“Can someone help me understand how the are going to get the extra electrical generation for all of the required charging of said vehicles”


"The useful thing is the amount of new generating capacity required if the whole country move to EVs is essentially zero."


My home solar is quite large and my battery storage is usually enough to make it through the night. That said, I don't have enough power generation or storage to take on the additional power in the day to later charge an EV when I get home in the evening. Although if EV's keep improving I might one day upgrade the system.


Even still, I need a gas powered car in the family too for when we go on long trips and such. My take on EV's are they're good for some things if you already have a certain scenario (in my case I have extra solar power half the year that I'm not consuming and could enjoy that going into something useful like an EV). But they can't totally replace gas cars.


And don't get me started on Ford having the audacity to refer to that grandmother's car looking hybrid as a Mustang!

43 posted on 07/03/2021 1:53:29 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Renfrew
The future potential of electrified vehicles comes up all the time in my field of work. I have had conversations about this “plenty of nighttime grid capacity” angle, and I just don’t see how it makes any sense at all. While it’s true that overnight periods may be the most popular for fully recharging EV batteries, there is simply far too much variability in motorist habits to build that kind of expectation into the grid capacity needs. I suspect most Americans will have no interest in EVs unless there is widespread availability of charging capacity in three particular places:

1. where they work
2. where they shop and/or dine outside the home
3. along the routes where they travel for vacation/leisure

EV charging in these three places will be done mostly during peak daytime hours.

45 posted on 07/03/2021 2:00:38 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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To: Renfrew
You are not getting the “time” part of this equation but don't feel bad because almost nobody gets this part...

I can fill up my F150 in 8 minutes and drive 777 miles (36 gallon tank). There is no way the EV industry will ever be able to match this safely.

EV charging stations on every corner? A mid-sized gas station prolly uses a 3phase 480volt 200amp service - 400amps if there is a convenience store attached. To provide the power for a Tesla type supercharging station is 3000amps at 13,800 volts. Even then if too many cars are charging the available power is cut to each vehicle, thus increasing the “time” factor.

The grid will never be able to expand fast enough. And there will be a high tension tower on every corner for the feed. Don't get me started on the issues with increasing underground feeder sizes.

46 posted on 07/03/2021 2:27:13 PM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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