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Tour de France Fan Will Face Trial for Role in Crash (IDENTIFIED, will be prosecuted)
nyt ^ | 7/2/2021 | Aurelien Breeden

Posted on 07/02/2021 8:53:47 AM PDT by Eddie01

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To: mfish13

“How could the organizers stop stupidity.”

This is exactly what safety regulations are for, the stupid ones. As I said, surprised it has not happened earlier.

Will be an interesting legal case.


41 posted on 07/02/2021 11:37:53 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (Come back, President Trump.)
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To: EVO X
I didn’t see anything that suggested malicious intent to whack the cyclists.

Malicious intent is not required in order to be charged and convicted of a crime. Extreme recklessness is sufficient. Consider a driver who gets crazy drunk and then causes a crash that kills someone. The driver had no malicious intent, but engaged in behavior that was so reckless that death or injury of others was likely to occur. That driver would be looking at a manslaughter charge at minimum.

42 posted on 07/02/2021 11:40:26 AM PDT by KevinB (''... and to the Banana Republic for which it stands ...")
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To: Cecily
So if you are a rider who got badly injured and had to drop out of the race, no big deal. Roadside fans, just be careful.

What should the race organizers do about the two racers that crossed tires, causing the second accident at 6.8mi of the same stage that took out nearly the rest of the peloton?

That second crash knocked four riders out of the race. (Konovalovas, Lemoine, Soler, and Sütterlin)

See: Lemoine, Soler, Konovalovas among many seriously injured in two Tour stage 1 crashes

43 posted on 07/02/2021 11:44:17 AM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (For 'tis the sport to have the engineer hoist with his own petard., -- Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 4)
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To: Rennes Templar
Will be an interesting legal case.

Not really. Criminally, it will only be a question of what they charge her with if they choose to charge her at all. My guess is they won't charge her. Civilly, if any of the cyclists choose to sue her, her liability will be a given. The only questions will be the amount of their damages and where the money will come from. Most people have no liability insurance except for required car insurance, so unless this thirty-year old woman has some personal wealth, they're unlikely to see much of anything.

44 posted on 07/02/2021 11:48:55 AM PDT by KevinB (''... and to the Banana Republic for which it stands ...")
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To: jz638

You win!


45 posted on 07/02/2021 11:49:38 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Eddie01
I think she is a hero. Or a comedy genius.

Funniest thing I ever saw. Best Tour de France ever.

But she didn't do anything. Some moron bike rider ran in to her. She was standing still at the side of the road.

Better than Benny Hill. It needs yakkety sax.

46 posted on 07/02/2021 12:24:19 PM PDT by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan

“Hello, I’d like to buy 10,000 marbles please”.


47 posted on 07/02/2021 12:48:23 PM PDT by cva66snipe
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To: Eddie01

Meanwhile, the NSA is spying on its citizens, the Videos are in bed with the Chickens, illegal FISA warrants, etc..etc .and nobody’s at fault or licked up in a crossbar hotel


48 posted on 07/02/2021 12:50:20 PM PDT by Kevin in California
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To: Kevin in California

Not sure what happened...should read the Biden are in bed with the Chicoms...


49 posted on 07/02/2021 12:54:19 PM PDT by Kevin in California
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To: cva66snipe

Hee Hee.


50 posted on 07/02/2021 12:54:31 PM PDT by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: KevinB

I am not a lawyer and don’t know anything about French law. However, it seems to me rather odd that a spectator can be charged with causing a wreck while contestants aren’t.


51 posted on 07/02/2021 12:56:56 PM PDT by EVO X ( )
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To: EVO X

When the Concord crashed, the French police immediately arrested the mechanics who had worked on the plane. When it turned out to be caused by debris on the runway from another plane, they charged the mechanic of that plane.

All to save face over their poorly designed plane.

So now they will destroy this woman over a silly stunt that embarassed them.


52 posted on 07/02/2021 1:31:24 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie. )
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To: EVO X
I am not a lawyer and don’t know anything about French law. However, it seems to me rather odd that a spectator can be charged with causing a wreck while contestants aren’t.

I am a lawyer, but not a French one. I'm guessing that on this issue the laws of the US and France are fairly similar. A contestant certainly could be charged if the contestant purposely injured another contestant or engaged in grossly reckless behavior that injured another contestant. But if a crash between contestants occurs in the normal course of racing there would be no charges (or civil liability) because the contestants assume the risks naturally inherent in that activity. Locking tires would be a good example of something that wouldn't raise any eyebrows unless it was intentional.

53 posted on 07/02/2021 1:31:57 PM PDT by KevinB (''... and to the Banana Republic for which it stands ...")
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To: ifinnegan

Would you say the same thing if some idiot walked out onto the track at the Indy 500 and caused a big accident?


54 posted on 07/02/2021 1:33:45 PM PDT by KevinB (''... and to the Banana Republic for which it stands ...")
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Camille Miansoni, the prosecutor in Brest, France, who had opened an investigation into the case, said that the spectator, a 30-year-old French woman, had been released from police custody pending her trial. She turned herself in on Wednesday.
So, specifically identified as French, which means, probably not French?

55 posted on 07/02/2021 1:34:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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“Would you say the same thing if some idiot walked out onto the track at the Indy 500 and caused a big accident?”

I saw no wall or partition here, clearly delineating viewers from race course.

This person was not in the middle of the road and was standing still at the side of the road.


56 posted on 07/02/2021 1:38:19 PM PDT by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: EVO X

Part of it is that what happens between contestants on the “field” is innately part of the sport. As soon as some idiot not a contestant gets on the “field” that’s not part of the sport. In the long view this woman is no different than somebody running onto a basketball court and tripping a player. Now we do know from a particularly cheap shot in the NHL a few years ago that when a contestant goes beyond a certain line they too can be charged. In the end she should have stayed off the road. You just don’t enter the field, period, ever.


57 posted on 07/02/2021 1:43:56 PM PDT by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick )
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To: ifinnegan

She was standing facing the roadway. Just before the riders to
to her she turned sideways to the road with her sign sticking
out inn the bikers lane about 3’ or so.. She damn sure wasn’t
innocent.


58 posted on 07/02/2021 1:49:09 PM PDT by deport ( )
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This person was not in the middle of the road and was standing still at the side of the road.

Her foot, knee and shoulders are all at least a foot into the road. Her left arm holding the sign is even further into the road. As another poster correctly pointed out, the rider hit her arm. He had no time to stop and nowhere else to go. I'm amazed that there are people on this thread actually defending this idiot woman.

59 posted on 07/02/2021 1:50:34 PM PDT by KevinB (''... and to the Banana Republic for which it stands ...")
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To: Rennes Templar

It happens every year to some extent. You would not have the tour as such a unique event without the fans as it is. They go past millions of fans every year without major mess ups like this. Watch it sometime and you will see.


60 posted on 07/02/2021 1:53:36 PM PDT by mfish13 (Elections have Consequences.)
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