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To: JonPreston

I have mixed feeling about this. First, most of these cases where women were “taken advantage of” involves the woman consenting 95% of the way. If you get to the point that a person can drug you, you are more than mildly culpable.

I don’t go for this “I said ‘no,’” after the pants come off. You are the author of your sexual destiny, unless someone abducts you off the street and forcibly rapes you.


3 posted on 06/30/2021 10:06:22 AM PDT by fwdude (“I do think at a certain point you've paid enough taxes.” — Not Obama)
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To: fwdude

“If you get to the point that a person can drug you, you are more than mildly culpable.”

Soooo, just entering a party and getting a drink, then?


6 posted on 06/30/2021 10:08:03 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: fwdude

Drugging people is wrong, M’kay?


8 posted on 06/30/2021 10:08:39 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents)(Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: fwdude
If you get to the point that a person can drug you, you are more than mildly culpable.

But if a drug has to introduced to the scenario, it would indicate he knew it wasn't going to happen without it.

12 posted on 06/30/2021 10:10:33 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: fwdude

I’ve thought about that, too. Used to be, many women that were assaulted wouldn’t come forward and press charges. Now, there are any number of women who will have consensual sex and then play the “litigation lottery” or make downright false accusations for political gain, money, or just vindictiveness, and they have NO shame....


16 posted on 06/30/2021 10:13:44 AM PDT by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: fwdude

The introduction of drugs to incapacitate the victim completely invalidates your viewpoint. Furthermore at no point is it justified to force anything on another person regardless of whatever transpired beforehand.

I agree that all people, men and women both, need to take responsibility to keep themselves out of situations that put them at risk, be it unwanted sexual activity or other bad situations. If every female that every consented to making out at the prom had to engage in intercourse afterward based on the discretion of her date very few would graduate high school without getting knocked up.


23 posted on 06/30/2021 10:18:34 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: fwdude
would you feel the same about your son, being given a drug in his drink and awakes in bed with some fat old homo slob?....

the caring and love in your post for victims is underwhelming....

you know there are people that say even if you were abducted off the street and forcibly raped they would question WHY WERE YOU ON THE STREET?

33 posted on 06/30/2021 10:30:29 AM PDT by cherry
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