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Reasons for Cohabitation: Woman, "Preparation for Marriage". Man: "Sex, when and where you want it."
RD | 1994 | K.C. Scott

Posted on 06/29/2021 5:15:45 PM PDT by CharlesOConnell

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To: Persevero
Give that stuff a break. Not everyone here is a bible follower or reader.
81 posted on 06/29/2021 8:26:11 PM PDT by doorgunner69 ("Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything.." -Joseph Stalin)
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To: SarahPalin2012

I said marriage today isn’t biblical marriage. And that is true. Men have no rights or benefits in marriage anymore. He’s not the head of the house anymore. The kids aren’t his and can be taken away at any time, divorce can occur for any reason including “I’m unhappy” or “I’m bored”, family court is heavily biased in favor of women, half of marriages end in divorce including christian marriages so there’s no guarantee there, and 80% of women file for divorce, almost everywhere its no-fault divorce, so women sure feel no responsibility to keep their wedding vows of “through better or worse, richer or poorer”. Not when 4 out of 5 divorces are initiated by women.

You never even offered one logical statement why what I said isn’t true.

You just turned into an angry, self-righteous filthmouth.

And everyone can see you’ve failed terribly.


82 posted on 06/29/2021 8:31:19 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: CharlesOConnell

Except there really is no such thing as ‘no fault’ divorce.

A better word for it is ‘unilateral divorce’. One side decide that they are gone and it is done. The divorces are just as bitter and vicious as there are money and children to fight over.

A better ready for the dad to look at this.

They have ‘gotten married’ in Gods eyes.

When they take each other, they are married. But they are somewhat outside of the crazy marriage and divorce laws that we have.

So there is no ridiculous wedding.

No nasty divorce. When they want to split up, they do. Minimal government interference.

Except - well, the government will get their fingers into the broke up couple if there are any children to fight over.


83 posted on 06/29/2021 8:36:03 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Secret Agent Man

That is true.

Why do women initiate most of the divorces?

Because they have high confidence of obtaining the kids abs a substantial part of his income.

Doesn’t always work out for them.

In the 80’s, NOW and the Government issued reports on all the courts State by State. They managed to claim that women were getting the short end of the stick in divorce court, despite getting custody in the vast majority of cases (90%).

To achieve this end, they just narrowed down their cases to less than 1% of the total - and claimed that men got custody in to ISD 2/3 of the time. A complete crock !


84 posted on 06/29/2021 8:40:16 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

it works out almost all of the time in their favor.

Thats why they file at the rate they file.

Thats why the very few times it doesn’t, its a big news story, and massive news story if its a celebrity woman.

Note this is also where women don’t think the lesser earner should get alimony or a 50-50 split of resources. Only when women benefit are they for alimony and 50-50 splits. and child support, aka alimony 2, 3,....


85 posted on 06/29/2021 8:45:41 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SarahPalin2012

I don’t agree to anything.


86 posted on 06/29/2021 8:48:07 PM PDT by Mark17 (Father of US Air Force combat pilot )
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To: Secret Agent Man
SAM, everyone can see you're a miserable old lonely fool. Maybe it's because of who you are that you can't get a good woman who will respect and obey you.

Laws may be unfair -- I'm not arguing that part. Biblical marriage is about the man loving the woman like Christ loves the church, and the woman obeying the husband. They should have many children if so blessed, and the children are to be brought up in a strict way knowing and loving the truth of God. The above has never been easy, but it's not dependent on laws.

You never talk about yourself. Everyone can see that. Okay, so you suck at life. But it doesn't mean other people do.

87 posted on 06/29/2021 8:50:50 PM PDT by SarahPalin2012
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To: Mark17
I don’t agree to anything.

You want a prize?

88 posted on 06/29/2021 8:52:23 PM PDT by SarahPalin2012
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To: Secret Agent Man

It was an honest question. You invited it, and you are the one evading responding.

I can’t help but wonder what a man who has rejected women and marriage does about sex.


89 posted on 06/29/2021 8:57:47 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: SarahPalin2012

You built up a straw man to argue against.

You have no idea who I am. But you build up something in your mind so that it makes it easy to dismiss what is being said. And you’ve done that all throughout this thread.

And to be fair, I don’t know you, or anyone else here. Most people here do not know who is on the other end of the screen name.

It doesn’t matter to me. I don’t argue personalities, i argue about ideas and topics and facts and reality. everyone posting here has a right to speak about anything, except per Jim’s caucus safe spaces, there’s no criteria that must be met in order to weigh in on a topic. Your personal experience has no bearing regarding someone talking about statistical data results. Mine doesn’t either. When we talk societal patterns and biases it doesn’t matter what race I am, or what gender you are.

Your premise I’m not happy or successful or whatever because I don’t talk about myself is laughable and ridiculous. It has no bearing on why I make a case for or against something. Formyou to assume the things you do is unintelligent and again, you attempt to make up a strawman you can then go and argue against.

Put it this way, I don’t care who you are. If I think you’re right I will agree with you. If I don’t I will disagree with you. Me agreeing with you or disagreeing with you has nothing to do with if I know you personally, or know more about you. If I believe you’re right, I agree. It’s not predicated on anything other than that. Its why I have disagreed with someone on one topic thread, and then a few threads later on something else, we’re in agreement.


90 posted on 06/29/2021 9:07:17 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Jamestown1630; All

I reread my post, post 54, you responded to with that question, and I wrote nothing to invite that type of question.

That post was discussing spouses abandoning a severely ill/dying spouse when they became ill.

My answer to your wondering is simple. Google it. You will find quite a bit of information out there to browse on that topic. You will wonder no longer.


91 posted on 06/29/2021 9:13:39 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: alternatives?

Many times I have heard men I barely know complain that their wife changed completely with marriage. No idea why they would complain to me.


92 posted on 06/29/2021 9:24:49 PM PDT by Whyfor
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To: Mariner

“The big question is: Did she ever come back?”

Did you read it all the way through? Author says at the end that daughter is now 35 and realizes the errors of her ways.


93 posted on 06/29/2021 9:26:35 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: Libloather

Kind of like Mr. Darcy for the womenfolk.


94 posted on 06/29/2021 9:28:58 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Bonemaker

In 30 years, 3 headaches.


95 posted on 06/29/2021 9:31:38 PM PDT by Whyfor
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To: Whyfor; alternatives?
Many times I have heard men I barely know complain that their wife changed completely with marriage. No idea why they would complain to me.

I wonder if these men cohabited with their girlfriends before marrying them.

96 posted on 06/29/2021 9:31:45 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: alternatives?

“My thinking is when you live together, you are more willing to compromise since it is short term.”

Right-o. I think there’s a lot of that, particularly on the women’s side. This is anecdotal, I know, but a woman I’m acquainted with has been desperately pursuing a loser-ish sorta fellow for the past half dozen years. Around the dawn of covid, loser guy lost his job, so he moved in with her to save expenses. After a few months, she’s knocked up, thus fulfilling her long-term goal of becoming a mom. Baby was born a few months ago, but no wedding, no ring, no plans. It’s almost nauseating the extent that this gal kisses her boyfriend’s rear end, constantly lavishing praise on what a great dad he is, what a great cook he is, what a great “partner” he is. So if there’s any dispute between the two, is she willing to compromise? Damned right she is. She’s not about to do anything that might cause the guy to walk. Now imagine that they were married, and suddenly it’s not so simple for the guy to walk when you’re talking about divorce and asset division and child support and custody hearings, etc. Would she be willing to kiss the dude’s ass to the extent that she is doing now?


97 posted on 06/29/2021 9:39:33 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: SarahPalin2012
You want a prize?

Yes I do. Send me a Thompson Chain reference KJV, a Schofield reference Bible, a Ryrie study Bible. Dispensational truth by Clarence Larkin. Mere Christianity by CS Lewis. A thousand Navigator’s bridge tracts, all Hal Lindsey’s books. All the Genesis 6 (Nephilim) stuff by Chuck Missler, Trey Smith, Allen Nolan, LA Marzuli, and Amir Tsarfati’s books.
I am into Biblical marriage. I certainly don’t groove on the family law thing. I got my born again Christian wife, out of a third world country, where she often times, didn’t get enough to eat. She appreciated what I did for her, and told me she hated being hungry. Believe it or not, there are Christian women in that third world country, which will remain unnamed. She gave me a son, who is now a US Air Force flying officer. I will never, however, ask anyone, especially a stranger, about their sex life. If you want to, fine. I never will. I don’t think that is Biblical. Don’t take it personally, if someone does not have a Biblical opinion on anything. It’s your job to tell them the truth, and the Holy Spirit’s job to convict them of sin, and righteousness and judgment. See you here, there, or in the air, at the rapture. (Harpazo)

98 posted on 06/29/2021 9:40:35 PM PDT by Mark17 (Father of US Air Force combat pilot )
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To: thecodont

Yes the men I’m talking about were complaining about how different a live in was from a wife. They were resentful that the wedding changed everything. I speculate that their wives stopped auditioning and started living.


99 posted on 06/29/2021 9:42:23 PM PDT by Whyfor
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To: SarahPalin2012

By the way, I forgot to mention, to be fair. I have seen more than a few women get screwed over too. One of my co workers had 4 young children. One day, her useless, piece of garbage husband, up and left her and the kids, and promptly disappeared. To this day, she doesn’t know if he is dead or alive. He was a piece of garbage.


100 posted on 06/29/2021 9:46:09 PM PDT by Mark17 (Father of US Air Force combat pilot )
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