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Reasons for Cohabitation: Woman, "Preparation for Marriage". Man: "Sex, when and where you want it."
RD | 1994 | K.C. Scott

Posted on 06/29/2021 5:15:45 PM PDT by CharlesOConnell

"Mom, Joe and I have decided to live together," my strong-willed 23-year-old daughter announced defiantly at our dining-room table, her boyfriend at her side.

Her words made my heart pound and my stomach churn. "Have either of you even thought about the possibility you could get pregnant?"

My daughter looked sheepishly at her boyfriend, admitting they hadn't. The defiance swept over her face again and she replied, "Well, I don't care what you and Dad think. You'll just have to accept it."

"We may have to tolerate it," I said firmly. "But we'll never accept it. You're going, against every value taught you."

As she and her 24-year-old boyfriend marched out the door, I was heartbroken. It was one of the great sorrows of my life.

I couldn't convince my daughter that by entering a relationship of sex without marriage she could be making the worst mistake of her life. But since then I've learned unsettling facts about cohabitation. My hope is that what I learned will help other young people and parents facing the same situation. (The U.S. Census Bureau says 6,085,284 unmarried, opposite-sex partners live together. [Written in 1994]) Here's what I found:

Estimates from a number of experts are that 40 to 50 percent of cohabitants never marry each other. One 1985 Columbia University study found only 19 percent of men who lived with their girlfriends eventually walked down the aisle with them.

I also learned that in many live-in relationship differently, frequently the result of failing to discuss what they expect of each other. When 139 cohabiting students were asked why they lived with' somebody, most women said it was a first step toward marriage. For men, the most common motive was sex. One man, asked why he was living with his girlfriend, replied, "Sex-when you want it, where you want it Though that particular inquiry is now years old, and the fear of AIDS has changed attitudes toward sex, I found from the people I've talked to that many cohabitants still don't talk about what they expect from living together.

Many young couples today insist that living Together Is a good idea, the best way to see if they are compatible-and hence the best way to prevent divorce. The truth? One study found that people who live together before marriage are about 33 percent more likely to split up than those who don't. Another study showed that the longer they live together before marriage, the more likely they themselves thought their chance of divorce. Moreover, the study says, cohabitants have a lower reported quality of marriage and a lower commitment to it.

As Connecticut psychologist Joseph Nowinski explains, "Living together, while frequently touted as an intensely bold, romantic move, is often really a way to avoid full commitment. When two people opt for living together over marriage, one or both of them are often secretly saying, I'm worried my love for you is too fragile to last a lifetime, So I want a quick escape hatch if the going gets rough'. "

A broken heart can't be prevented just by refusing to sign on the dotted line. When live-in couples split, the emotional fallout is often as deeply painful as divorce. University of Southern California clinical psychologist Michael Newcomb explains: "Live-in couples usually become as emotionally attached as married couples. The problem is, it is easier for even a small problem to drive them apart because they just don't have the glue that married couples do to hold them together-such as kids, shared finances, a legal document."

Steve Jaccarino, a contractor in Westport, Conn., and his girlfriend broke up mainly because they disagreed over where they wanted to settle. Today, ten years later, Steve still imagines her coming back into his life. "I'm not over her," he says.

This was one of my deepest concerns. Five years before my daughter announced she was going to live with her boyfriend, she had made the same mistake. At age 18, she had run away from home to live with another boy-and bad gotten pregnant. When he deserted her, my daughter was so devastated and unable to cope that for years the burden of raising the baby had fallen on my husband's and my shoulders.

When another young woman I know of lived with a man, she accidentally got pregnant with twins. Her live-in lover stayed with her until she was seven months along and jobless, then phoned her parents one night and announced, "Come and get your very pregnant daughter." For the next 18 years, she raised her twin boys alone, often barely able to buy food or pay rent. Fully 44 percent of unwed mothers will live in poverty.

Frequently, people who live together first are miserable after marriage. Common problems include: lower overall ability to communicate-less ability to resolve quarrels. In one study, wives who' cohabited before the wedding complained especially about the poor quality of communication with their mates. Clearly, when it comes to marriage, practicing beforehand doesn't make perfect. On the contrary, in a study reported in the Journal of Marriage and the Family, the longer couples had lived together before marriage, the more unhappy they were.

A 1989 study found physical attacks are more common and more severe among live-in couples than among those who are married. Isolation from their families may be a reason for this, the study's authors concluded.

Another survey showed a startling 40 per cent of cohabiting women were forced to endure a kind of sex they disliked. Moreover, since there is often no commitment to be sexually exclusive, those who cohabit may be put at a higher-than-average risk for sexually transmitted diseases such as genital herpes, chlamydia and AIDS.

At age 19, one Palm Springs, California woman offered to let her unemployed boyfriend-move in with her. She recalls: "He was living with his ex-girlfriend at the time. I figured if he moved in with me, he'd be all mine. Instead, I wound up doing all the work and paying all the bills while he was secretly sleeping with her in my bed. It was a bad mistake."

Cohabiting is often portrayed as trouble-free and offering all the joys of marriage with none of the responsibilities. Nonsense!

One young man I know attests to the falsity of this argument. He moved in with his fiancee three months before their wedding. Today he says, "We had all the disagreements of marriage Who does the dishes? Who pays the bills?-without the commitment to hold us together. If we had lived together longer, we might have broken up. When you aren't married and you fight, you don't ever have to work it out if you don't want to. You can just walk away."

Frequently, the woman sees living together as romantic, while the man views the arrangement as a "practical" solution that will help them iron out differences and strengthen their love by destroying any foolish romantic fantasies they may have about each other. In fact, live-in couples may find it harder to build lasting love precisely because they have lost their starry-eyed, romantic "illusions."

Family therapists Judy and Jim Sellner, authors of Loving for Life, say that rich, lasting love goes through several distinct stages. The first is the "romantic" phase when love is wild and idealistic, when couples believe they have found their "one true love" with whom they will "live happily ever after."

It is an absolutely wonderful time, and couples should linger over it and just enjoy the candlelight dinners, the swooning, the craziness of it all. Cutting it short to rush into living together could be a major mistake. Say the Sellners: Couples who weather the tumultuous power-struggle and conflict stages and sail smoothly on to a more peaceful period in which they understand and handle their differences are those whom manage to recall the "overly idealized" visions of each other they enjoyed in the first romantic stage of courtship.

The day my daughter said she was moving in with her boyfriend, I knew some of these facts and shared them with her-to no avail. But over the past few years, as I continued to learn about the data on living together, I was even more convinced it was the wrong thing to do. I became so determined to get this information out to people-and to help young women and men avoid or cope with the pregnancies that all too often result from living together-that I started a support group for unwed parents, which advocates premarital abstinence. My daughter, now 35 and much wiser, is active in the organization and tells anyone who will listen that living together is absolutely the wrong way to go.

As our children become young adults, we can no longer make decisions for them. Nor can we completely keep them from harm. But at least we can arm them with all the facts we can find. We can then only pray they'll make the right choices.


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: antiabstinence; cohabitation; dating; feminazism; hookupculture; marriage; men; promiscuity; pua; redpill; sexpositiveagenda; sexualpolitics; smashmonogamy; smashthepatriarchy; women
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To: BJ1
70% of divorces are initiated by women.

I thought it was higher than that, but you are probably right.

61 posted on 06/29/2021 7:17:46 PM PDT by Mark17 (Father of US Air Force combat pilot )
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To: Jamestown1630; Secret Agent Man
So, what do you do for sex?

Isn’t that a bit too personal? I certainly wouldn’t volunteer that information, to ANYONE.

62 posted on 06/29/2021 7:25:45 PM PDT by Mark17 (Father of US Air Force combat pilot )
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To: Mariner

Your advice is unbiblical


63 posted on 06/29/2021 7:36:36 PM PDT by Persevero (I am afraid propriety has been set at naught. - Jane Austen )
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To: CharlesOConnell

Married 32 years here. I have found one secret to a long and happy marital life: communication!

Whenever my dear wife and I have a difference of opinion as to a course of action, we take time to carefully enunciate our respective positions and the merits of our viewpoints. Then - and ONLY then - we conclude by doing what she wants.


64 posted on 06/29/2021 7:37:23 PM PDT by tjd1454
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To: Mark17; All

When people cant win an argument they go after the speaker personally.

Shes wanting me to voluntarily give info that she can attempt to se against me.

Most women argue this way, because they can’t argue against facts or truths when they are on the opposite side of them. Instead they go attempt,tofind fault with the speaker.


65 posted on 06/29/2021 7:38:01 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Mark17
So, what do you do for sex?

Isn’t that a bit too personal? I certainly wouldn’t volunteer that information, to ANYONE.

The question wasn't asked as a standalone question. SAM has for years been advocating never getting married, and has obvious anger toward women and the justice system. He advises young men to never get married.

In THAT situation, it is a fair question. No one's asking for specifics. It can be as general as "one night stands, friends with benefits, etc." You personally don't have to volunteer your information to anyone, but don't misrepresent the above situation as if the question were asked as a stand-alone question.

66 posted on 06/29/2021 7:42:58 PM PDT by SarahPalin2012
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To: Secret Agent Man
SAM, give it a rest dude. We get it -- you think the legal system is unfair and you think most (or is it all) women are out to take advantage of men.

The big issue is that it's not a biblical position. So your position is big BS by definition.

67 posted on 06/29/2021 7:45:55 PM PDT by SarahPalin2012
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To: CharlesOConnell
I asked a woman...one who had suffered at the hands of unfaithful men...why it was not a good idea for a man and a woman to live together and not get married, and, why they did not stay married once they did decide to get married. Here is her response:

A woman who lives with a man without marrying him will come to realize she has a huge problem. She one day realizes he broke the rules by sleeping with her immorally and from then on believes he will break the rules again with another woman. That trust can never be regained.

69 posted on 06/29/2021 8:01:45 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Persevero

“Your advice is unbiblical”

So are all the marriage laws in the US.


71 posted on 06/29/2021 8:15:36 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: SarahPalin2012

You come here and bring up “biblical” marriage and then start swearing at a person with a different viewpoint.

Not very biblical on your part. That casts significant doubt on your position. Appears rather hypocritical.


72 posted on 06/29/2021 8:15:46 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SarahPalin2012
The question wasn't asked as a standalone question.

I believe it was. If you disagree, so be it. We will just have to agree to disagree. I am ok with that.

74 posted on 06/29/2021 8:17:35 PM PDT by Mark17 (Father of US Air Force combat pilot )
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To: Mark17

It seems to me to be a valid question, naturally invited by a man who advertises his hatred of marriage and women on the internet.

I’m just wondering what his ‘solution’ is to the state of marriage which he seems to reject soundly.

Has he become a monk?


75 posted on 06/29/2021 8:19:22 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I think you are right bro. I am not into this live in thing. I think it prepares people for divorce, more than it prepares them for marriage.


77 posted on 06/29/2021 8:22:20 PM PDT by Mark17 (Father of US Air Force combat pilot )
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To: Jamestown1630

Women initiate 80% of all divorces. A young man today would be a fool to marry with the laws and family courts stacked against him. No fault divorce is evil.


78 posted on 06/29/2021 8:22:54 PM PDT by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: mrmeyer

So, what does the young man do, instead of marriage?


79 posted on 06/29/2021 8:24:47 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Mark17
How is it a standalone question? It wasn't asked randomly from some stranger. They are in a discussion about relationships, and SAM is advocating a position against marriage. So it's fair to ask what he does (or recommends) about an aspect that is integral about the relationship.

If you want to agree that you misrepresented the original question, then I'm okay with that.

80 posted on 06/29/2021 8:25:08 PM PDT by SarahPalin2012
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