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Reasons for Cohabitation: Woman, "Preparation for Marriage". Man: "Sex, when and where you want it."
RD | 1994 | K.C. Scott

Posted on 06/29/2021 5:15:45 PM PDT by CharlesOConnell

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To: Jamestown1630

“I was taught that God is Love.”

Moral revisionism.

Where in the bible does it say to love God?

People are commanded to obey God and love each other.


141 posted on 06/30/2021 6:43:43 PM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: Justa

Oh, Good Grief.

Try Luke 10:27

and John 4:8 and :16


142 posted on 06/30/2021 6:51:12 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Jamestown1630

“trying to DO something ‘activist’ about this, “

I think laws should be changed


143 posted on 06/30/2021 7:04:06 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Leave me alone, I have no incriminating evidence on the Clintons)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Well, I’m not sure it’s ‘laws’ that are doing this. We see Law being set aside all over, recently.

But if it is, laws don’t get changed without people getting actively behind a movement to accomplish that.

Complaining and expressing your jaundice every chance you get on a website just doesn’t do it


144 posted on 06/30/2021 7:14:15 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Secret Agent Man
You havent heard enough stories.

I've heard all the stories from both women and men.

Some people (both men and women) take advantage of other people.

It's sad, and sometimes the system stinks, and sometimes men complain about women, and sometimes women complain about men.

But, one group (women or men) really isn't to blame for everything.

145 posted on 06/30/2021 7:53:23 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Albion Wilde

And than you for posting this. It’s tiresome to have this hoary old factoid trotted out as evidence.


146 posted on 06/30/2021 8:13:23 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: Lazamataz

Hahahahaha! this thread needed a good zinger!


147 posted on 06/30/2021 8:21:52 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late." —Bob Dylan)
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To: Tired of Taxes

i didn’t say one group is to blame for everything.

I am very clear about what i do say. I didn’t say that.


148 posted on 06/30/2021 8:25:25 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
I pointed out the correct factual information that I have observed in 20 years of my career and what I have seen.

What you have observed and what you have seen outside of a double-blind controlled study are empirical evidence, not necessarily factual evidence nor statistically valid analysis. Every observer has bias. Opinions, inferences and feelings aren't facts.

149 posted on 06/30/2021 8:25:36 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late." —Bob Dylan)
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To: Albion Wilde

“Opinions, inferences and feelings aren’t facts. “

Then get out and and talk to real people . If you have any interest past making comments on the web .
I’m not a18 year old, I don’t require you or anyone else to tell what I have experienced and learned with decades of hard work, is just something I made up.
Real people have been hurt with these abusive actions.
Have some empathy for them, it could easily be you or someone you care about,


150 posted on 06/30/2021 8:35:15 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Leave me alone, I have no incriminating evidence on the Clintons)
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To: Clutch Martin
You wrote: despite the fact that she was totally unfaithful to anything, even her decency, the court still gave her half of everything, the house had to be sold and this poor fellow was nearing the end of a good career, with no place to live, no investments left, and on half rations.

Sadly, the law doesn't care whether a spouse has cheated. Whether the husband cheated on the wife, or the wife cheated on the husband, makes no difference in divorce court.

The judges don't want to hear all the details or listen to arguments, either.

So, today, all divorces follow this formula (at least in my state):

- Whichever spouse earns more is the one who pays alimony. Alimony stops if the one collecting it remarries (or moves in with a partner, but good luck proving that).

- Whichever spouse stays in the house gets the house, but must fork over half the equity to the other spouse (or they must sell the house and split the equity 50/50).

- Unless one parent is dangerous, both parents share joint legal custody, but whichever parent stays with the kids gets primary physical custody, whereas the parent who moves out gets visitation. (The courts don't care why the parent moved out.)

- Child support is calculated based on the parents' incomes and the number of nights the kids spend with each parent.

It's not a perfect formula, and there's much more to it. But it has nothing to do with gender.

151 posted on 06/30/2021 8:54:48 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: HereInTheHeartland
I do mortgage lending and see many peoples finances . . . . Very unfortunate to see divorced guys with little to their name financially

But, you're not seeing the whole story. You're seeing only one part of it.

152 posted on 06/30/2021 9:12:38 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Uh, you just doubled down.

Feelings aren’t facts.


153 posted on 06/30/2021 10:36:18 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late." —Bob Dylan)
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To: Jamestown1630

Marriage is God ordained and the only institution for the legitimate expression of sex. He condemns sex outside marriage.

God is the one who said that it is not good for man to be alone and instituted marriage and how it is to operate. Anyone who advocates against marriage goes against God’s design for humanity and family.

It’s the mechanism by which children are to be brought into the world and raised. (Malachi 2:13-16 And this second thing you do. You cover the Lord’s altar with tears, with weeping and groaning because he no longer regards the offering or accepts it with favor from your hand. But you say, “Why does he not?” Because the Lord was witness between you and the wife of your youth, to whom you have been faithless, though she is your companion and your wife by covenant. Did he not make them one, with a portion of the Spirit in their union? And what was the one God[g] seeking? Godly offspring. So guard yourselves in your spirit, and let none of you be faithless to the wife of your youth. “For the man who does not love his wife but divorces her, says the Lord, the God of Israel, covers his garment with violence, says the Lord of hosts. So guard yourselves in your spirit, and do not be faithless.”

Men are to love their wives as Christ loves the church and gave Himself for it, and women are to respect their husbands and obey them as Christ. Men are to protect, provide, and lead. Women are to submit and respect. Actually both are to submit to each other and not deny each other sex.

The big problem with marriage these days is that too many people are in it for themselves and their own personal benefit and what they can get out of it. That cannot and will not ever work. It’s selfish lust and not sacrificial love.

There’s plenty of blame to go around in who is at fault for a marriage gone south. It isn’t only women as some here would like us to believe as if men are perfect and can do no wrong.


154 posted on 07/01/2021 1:04:11 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith……)
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To: CharlesOConnell
Two people don't get married anymore. Marriage is a three way contract with the government as the third partner and there is no way to prevent the government from entering the arrangement. Judges have thrown out prenuptial agreements.

A spouse can file for divorce in a state that the other spouse has never been to yet now is beholden to that state.

Was it Lauren Bacall who said maybe a couple should live next to each other in separate houses and visit each other?

155 posted on 07/01/2021 8:37:05 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: Michael.SF.; dfwgator

I never realized that either!

Great song, though!


156 posted on 07/01/2021 8:46:53 PM PDT by proud American in Canada (Fear is a reaction; courage is a decision. Winston Churchill )
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To: CharlesOConnell

Okay any advice would be appreciated.

I am 58; been married to the same man for 31 years.

However he no longer wants to be intimate with me. Tonight I tried to please him but he pushed me away.

He doesn’t want a divorce because he says I make him laugh.

He has me living in a home for seniors with Alzheimers. Been here a year and a half. He doesn’t want me home, where my dog is.

I am not happy with divorce but I want to feel like a man thinks I’m pretty and wants to be with me.

Not sure why I posted this; just feeling lonely in the old-timers place.


157 posted on 07/01/2021 9:04:09 PM PDT by proud American in Canada (Fear is a reaction; courage is a decision. Winston Churchill )
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To: Mariner; Secret Agent Man

Perfect point.


158 posted on 07/07/2021 6:13:24 PM PDT by Arcadian Empire
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To: metmom
men are perfect and can do no wrong

Thank you, that is wonderful of you to say.

159 posted on 07/07/2021 6:16:07 PM PDT by Arcadian Empire
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To: Tired of Taxes
it has nothing to do with gender

It has everything to do with the roles that are accorded based upon people's beliefs about gender.

160 posted on 07/07/2021 6:20:00 PM PDT by Arcadian Empire
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