Posted on 06/28/2021 4:18:27 PM PDT by ransomnote
this Indonesian article sums the finer points, i think:
medialnews, JAKARTA – The Delta variant is currently the most worrying variant of the Covid-19 virus. Health Ministry Covid-19 vaccination spokeswoman Siti Nadia Tarmizi said the Delta variant is six times faster than the Alfa variant.
“The increase in our cases is very significant compared to December 2020 and January 2021. The reason is the high mobility during the Ramadan and Eid holidays and lax health protocols,” he said in the schedule of the Guest Room webinar which was organized by Holopis Virtually in Jakarta, Tuesday (29/6).
According to Siti Nadia, the Delta variant speeds up the rate of transmission, but there is no strong evidence that the B1617.2 variant from India has the ability to reduce the effectiveness of the vaccine. For this reason, the government continues to seek to speed up vaccination to reduce the rate of transmission.
“Because in some areas we also find this variant,” he said.
The decreasing community adherence to health protocols, said Siti Nadia, has the potential to facilitate the spread of new variants in the community. “This delta has a transmission rate six times that of the Alfa variant. Our daily findings of cases currently reach over 15,000 people recently,” he said.
Siti Nadia added that an Australian newspaper reported the transmission speed of the Delta variant when calculated based on a time ranging from 10 to 15 seconds. “So people who walk by without wearing a mask can already make that person positive or infected,” he said.
While the old variant takes 10 to 20 minutes to be able to make a person exposed. “This delta can be 10 times the baud rate of the old variant,” he said.
https://www.medialnews.com/the-delta-variant-is-6-times-more-contagious-than-alfa/
more (lost the cite):
The Delta strain is the “most contagious variant we’ve seen so far,” said Dr. Ashish Jha, the dean of the Brown University School of Public Health.
and:
“The Delta strain has been associated with 2.61 times the risk of hospitalizations compared to the previously dominant strain in the UK....”
https://www.gwinnettdailypost.com/features/health/with-the-more-contagious-delta-variant-some-officials-are-issuing-new-mask-guidance/article_4fba4a0c-6317-5498-b6b4-84db68847a91.html
and:
Mutations that help the virus bind more tightly can make transmission from one person to another easier. Imagine you breathe in a droplet that contains SARS-CoV-2. If that droplet contains viruses with better binding capabilities, they “will be more efficient at finding and infecting one of your cells,” says Nathaniel Landau, a microbiologist at NYU Grossman School of Medicine.
https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/06/10/1026090/delta-covid-19-variant-more-infectious/
and (pre-print)
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.28.446163v1.full.pdf
Thank you.
A lot to chew on here.
Delta so “Sticky” now. Nice turdminolgy, what dat mean?
Don’t get that sticky icky! It will get you from the covid red zone yard. It will get you if your talking. It will get you when your sleeping. It knows when you’re a woke.
Surface clean and vaccine. Masks for years. We are all in this together.
The Just Us Department in DC has a bunch of Americans locked up in Solitary Confinement for Trespassing in the Capitol Building. They have been there for Months.
People in glass houses and all that Jazz.
The Delta strain has been associated with 2.61 times the risk of hospitalizations compared to the previously dominant strain in the UK....”
1. I read that the symptoms are same as hay fever or common cold...So how do 2.61 times the risk of hospitalizations occur if it is mistaken for hay fever?
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3971807/posts
2. biden and Fauxi are claiming India variant is deadlier than original Covid...Again, with hay fever symptoms, how is that possible?
2. I read that the death rate is higher for vaccinated with the India (Delta) variant. So they say the vaccines work yet reports that the vaccinated have a higher death rate than unvaccinated for the Delta variant...
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3970335/posts
3. There have been reports that more than half the new cases are people who received prior vaccinations...I easily found one regarding Israel that stated 50% of the new India cases were people who were vaccinated.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3971434/posts
Very confusing...
not a geek either, lol
1. because people think they have hay fever and don’t get tested for early intervention and/or there is no early intervention available. High hospitalizations result from a variant that has mutated ways to enter more cells more easily, and/or can produce higher levels of virus system wide faster than the first gen virus, maybe without even triggering the immune system. The job of a virus is to replicate and adapt. So that’s what it’s doing.
2. India is claiming it’s more deadlier, too. So is Jakarta. Most of their patients are unvaccinated. I pay more attention to what foreign doctors say than Fauci
second 2. at your FR link, see my conterargument post here:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3970335/posts?page=32#32
3. The vaccine worked great for the original Alpha (wuhan) mutant. Now there are 109 mutations (only 5 or 6 that seem ‘of concern’). Delta is affecting the under-40’s. In Israel half of the Delta cases are unvaccinated children under 16. None of the adult vaccinated that were reinfected have developed severe disease but they are suspected carriers - Israel has imposed mandatory quarantine on those individuals to stop any spread while they figure things out.
“An analysis by UK health officials found that two doses of Pfizer’s vaccine were 88% effective against Delta while a single shot was 33% effective. That’s compared with 95% efficacy against the original strain, or 52% after one shot.”
https://www.businessinsider.com/israel-50-of-delta-variant-cases-vaccinated-severe-2021-6
Thanks for the FR links.
Thanks.
More to chew on ;)
Someone can make an awful follow-up to the terrible Red Zone Cuba called Red Zone Britain.
I got to Scotland once for a few days in 92. Glad I got to what little I did.
From now I guess reruns of Brit TV and movies like The Saint which I am going through boxed set.
WGAF what the R factor is when the Delta is no worse than the source virus at 99.2% recovery.
The virus was Chinese-engineered to specifically overrun every. single. human. over given n, thus now that we have crowned over the tipping point of herd immunity and there is no chance of overburdening CCUs in 1st-world countries like the UK (if there ever was, given the big vast empty that were the unused field hospitals), every 1st-world lockdown action is kontrol kabuki that has long since actually played out.
The worst part is, is that you know this and you're just bored and trying to bait FRacebookers into pointless arguments...
Link?
"2. India is claiming it’s more deadlier, too. So is Jakarta. Most of their patients are unvaccinated. I pay more attention to what foreign doctors say than Fauci"
Link?
"3. The vaccine worked great for the original Alpha (wuhan) mutant. Now there are 109 mutations (only 5 or 6 that seem ‘of concern’). Delta is affecting the under-40’s. In Israel half of the Delta cases are unvaccinated children under 16. None of the adult vaccinated that were reinfected have developed severe disease but they are suspected carriers - Israel has imposed mandatory quarantine on those individuals to stop any spread while they figure things out: “An analysis by UK health officials found that two doses of Pfizer’s vaccine were 88% effective against Delta while a single shot was 33% effective. That’s compared with 95% efficacy against the original strain, or 52% after one shot."
Wow, did you just seriously, specifically exclude the headline to your last link? Lemme help you out...
The worst part is, is that you know this and you’re just bored and trying to bait FRacebookers into pointless arguments...
It is not surprising that you make no sense—that happens when you interject yourself into someone else’s discussion.
From your tone, I do remember you though. You did it again just like you did before...You snarkily interjected yourself into a discussion I was having with someone else.
Bait? LOL Life is too short—not taking your bait...
My last 2 sentences of last post to you before were:
Guess we both can agree regarding tolerance...(like you) I “don’t tolerate people who propagate” smarmy and condescending replies, so I am done.
You have yourself a fine day, and in my “blissful unawareness,” I will have a fine day as well since I am done with this timewaste.
Forgive me for not being clear before.
Let me clarify: You are the baiter and a timewaste. Please DON’T POST TO ME—not now, not again.
if you’re going to jump into a conversation with ‘link’, you really should read all the posts and links therein that pertain so you can follow the conversation.
But somehow I doubt that was your intention anyway. Nitpicking is so much more fun right?
you’re very welcome. We’re all helping each other learn what we can :)
Step foot into another country, and it’s their rules. Why people act all shocked or surprised is beyond me. Apparently, even many of their people are Ok with it.
Then again, the U.S. has plenty of its own sheep and useful idiots to contend with.
Fifty Years Later: The Significance of the Nuremberg Code
Note how many don't apply to CoupFlu.
This is happening to citizens of that country returning HOME.
The same happened in Canada. A returning passenger was treated like a criminal by CHINESE soldiers.
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