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Shocker: Lisbon court rules that only 0.9% of ‘verified cases’ attributed to COVID in Portugal actually died of it
American Thinker ^ | 28 Jun, 2021 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 06/28/2021 3:43:24 AM PDT by MtnClimber

152 deaths, not 17,000, according to the court.

The campaign to scare the world into adopting unprecedented abridgements of civil liberties to fight a purported pandemic that threatened unthinkable levels of casualties had a lot of help from the officials charged with counting the death toll. Most readers of American Thinker are familiar with anecdotes such as the motorcyclist who died in a crash but was counted as a “COVID death” because he had a positive test for antibodies. An audit by two Minnesota state legislators late last year estimated that COVID deaths in that state were overcounted by about 40%. But, on the other hand, an audit in Kentucky last March added about 10% to that state’s death toll allegedly due to COVID. And an audit this month in India has added substantially to the death toll in the northern state of Bihar. Now comes news, via America’s Frontline Doctors, of an actual judicial decision on the true extent of COVID deaths in Portugal. Mordechai Sones writes:

Following a citizen’s petition, a Lisbon court was forced to provide verified COVID-19 mortality data, reports AndreDias.net.

According to the ruling, the number of verified COVID-19 deaths from January 2020 to April 2021 is only 152, not about 17,000 as claimed by government ministries.

All the “others” died for various reasons, although their PCR test was positive.

“We live in a fraud of unprecedented dimensions,” wrote Dias.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Society
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To: Jan_Sobieski

I think you are right.


21 posted on 06/28/2021 5:24:32 AM PDT by cdcdawg (It's all so tiresome.)
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To: MAGAthon

A reminder:

India’s cases/deaths are PLUMMETING and the curve bears no association to ‘vaccinations’ whatsoever, strictly following a spike in deaths and consequent widespread treatments with Ivermectin.

I suspect that their deaths are corresponding to derelict PCR test results, too.

Wouldn’t it be interesting if 200 autopsies were performed on deaths supposedly of ‘covid’ nationwide and the results compared to statistics of the prior year...


22 posted on 06/28/2021 5:29:40 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: cdcdawg
..when so very many Freepers personally knew a perfectly healthy young person..

I will not speak on all the cases of "perfectly healthy young people" brought down by the Wuhan Flu, but
judging just a few of the young whose pictures accompanied their deaths, these folk were portly if not obese.

23 posted on 06/28/2021 5:34:51 AM PDT by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent.)
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To: Thommas

We live in a culture where people will line up to receive an experimental vaccine, but would rebel against the suggestion that they lose weight. Fat Lives Matter.


24 posted on 06/28/2021 5:44:31 AM PDT by cdcdawg (It's all so tiresome.)
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To: MtnClimber

COVID-19 may not be the verified killer, but something did cause a huge increase in USA deaths in 2020.

In 2019, the total USA death toll increased by about 15,000 deaths.

In 2020, the total USA death toll increased by almost 500,000 deaths!


25 posted on 06/28/2021 6:22:02 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: mewzilla

I would suggest that Fauci be included in the list of politicians. He sure isn’t a scientist.


26 posted on 06/28/2021 6:39:03 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: metmom

It was a fraud to lockdown the world and destroy capitalism.


27 posted on 06/28/2021 6:45:24 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (“Fraud vitiates everything.” )
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To: zeestephen

Actually, the increase in 2020 USA deaths is now almost 600,000 - however, there is an aberration.

The National Center for Health Statistics calculates deaths per week. That means that every 5 years they need to add one week to one year. 2020 has 53 weeks in the NCHS data.

2018 - Total Deaths - All Causes - 2.832 million

2019 - Total Deaths - All Causes - 2.846 million

2020 (53 weeks) - Total Deaths - All Causes - 3.434 million

2020 (52 weeks) - Total Deaths - All Causes - 3.347 million

Also interesting...

2020 - First 20 Weeks - 1.276 million

2021 - First 20 Weeks - 1.291 million


28 posted on 06/28/2021 7:18:36 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: MtnClimber; Mark17; ransomnote; bagster; little jeremiah

Right on.

It has always been to create fear,
justify lockdowns to destroy capitalism,
to give Gov’t unprecedented powers,
to pave the way for a Marxist takeover,
and to create enough fear to make people
clamor for the “vaccine”

But this is primarily a war to usher in global Marxism.

The virus was a way to justify it.

Now we are inundated with “variant” fake news
to keep the fear going and justify WHO KNOWS WHAT
in the “booster shots.”

Yet people here bleat “yes master.”

Climate change didn’t work as a common
world enemy. Ergo, the virus.

Is it any wonder big tech must censor dissent
to prevent the truth from spreading - on so many fronts?

that they corrupted universities, scientists, institutions?

Any wonder they divide us by race, foment
civil war, and try to wipe our history away
- to make it easier to replace?

That they are flooding western nations with
uncontrolled immigration?

Is it any wonder paid that paid Vax Spokespersons
were deployed HERE and across the internet?

They will surely fail, but western economy, culture,
and freedom is being severely damaged.

Meanwhile China has lifted the restrictions on children
and has bought key ports and infrastructure across the world?


29 posted on 06/28/2021 7:54:14 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (“Fraud vitiates everything.” )
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To: MtnClimber

The canary in the mineshaft for COVID is the homeless.

If the pandemic was real, there would be few if any individuals living on the streets of our large cities.

The fact is they appear to be thriving even living without basic sanitation or social distancing.


30 posted on 06/28/2021 8:00:59 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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To: MtnClimber
This is not a "shocker".

The CDC's own reports (last summer and then again this spring) indicate that only 6% of the reported covid deaths in the US are from actual covid.

The rest are from other medical issues or co-morbidities.

Numbers were pumped up to meet a political agenda.

31 posted on 06/28/2021 9:19:15 AM PDT by HotHunt
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To: MtnClimber

Apparently this is a misunderstanding of the document:

“It says – in Portuguese – that between 2020 and 2021, “152 certificates were issued by doctors working for the Ministry of Justice, whose primary cause of death was the coronavirus”. It is this quote that is used to show that the official balance sheet would be well below the figures released by the health authorities.

However, Internet users forget to note important information. In this sentence, it is clearly specified that the court only takes into account the certificates issued by these famous “doctors who work for the Ministry of Justice”. However, they represent only a fraction of the people authorized to produce these certificates.”

https://news.in-24.com/news/88172.html

May as well produce a document that says “152 death certificates from COVID came from a doctor named Fred”. Okay, that’s neat, but it doesn’t mean anything.


32 posted on 06/28/2021 9:20:06 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: HotHunt
"The CDC's own reports (last summer and then again this spring) indicate that only 6% of the reported covid deaths in the US are from actual covid."

No, their reports said that about 6% of the death certificates didn't list anything besides COVID-19. If COVID-19 is listed as the Underlying Cause of Death in Section 32 Part I of a US Standard Certificate of Death, then it caused the death. Part 1 of Section 32 lists the chain of morbid events leading directly to death, from the UCoD to the immediate cause of death. For COVID-19, that might look like "hypoxemia due to ARDS due to COVID-19". COVID-19 caused that death. That chain of events must only have direct links. In other words, you wouldn't put "hypoexmia due to COVID-19 due to cancer" because cancer doesn't cause COVID-19.

The comorbidities you're talking about are listed in Part 2. That section is for conditions which complicated survival, but were not part of the chain of events leading directly to death. So if a patient has diabetes or hypertension, those conditions are listed in Part 2. A person can live for decades with either of those, but if they get COVID-19, it escalates to ARDS, and they die from lack of oxygen, that's a COVID-19 death.

Further, if the wrong cause were simply listed for a bunch of deaths, deaths from those causes would go down and total deaths would remain the same. Except that deaths from heart disease, cancer, etc. didn't go down in 2020. Total deaths went up. By about 534,000. That's an over 18% jump from 2019. A normal year-over-year increase is 0.3% - 0.7%. So all the normal heart disease and cancer deaths were there, but suddenly there was a massive (World War II level) spike in deaths and it happened in a year when doctors and nurses around the world reported losing patients to a new disease.

33 posted on 06/28/2021 9:26:47 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest; Jane Long; ransomnote; grey_whiskers
Apparently this is a misunderstanding of the document:

In rides our plucky hero, defender of the almighty safe and effective vax.

"Because he's the hero FreeRepublic deserves, but not the one it needs right now".


34 posted on 06/28/2021 10:29:31 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
Whatever you wrote, I don't agree with. I read their news releases twice and that is not what I read. The media, of course, only tells you what they want to tell you so its entirely possible I have it wrong. But I don't think so.

Biggest bunch of gobbledygook I ever heard of. Lead me into the long weeds so I get lost in your facts and statistics.

There were so many deaths from covid in the US that I have gone since December 2019 to present and don't know a soul who has had covid or died from covid.

How can that be possible? Sick people all over the place and 600,000+ people gone just like that and I didn't notice a thing. Poof!

Your argument reminds me of the same kind the climate change proponents use and yet after 50 years, the earth is still here and not burnt to a crisp yet. But just give us another 10-12 years or so and it will happen. The debate is over. The science is settled.

If you empty your wallet to me now, I can prevent the temperature of the earth from rising one degree one hundred years from now. 3 card Monte.

Climate change and the covid pandemic have both been one big smoke and mirrors. I believe virus pandemic industrial complex are just getting warmed up to start a new scam that will run for decades. The Delta variant is upon us already. Believe what you want because if it doesn't pan out, don't worry. Someone else will have their own facts to prove their point of view.

Wear masks? Don't wear masks. Social distance? Or not. Lockdown in your homes? Yes but it doesn't really work but let's do it anyway. Get the vaccine? Yes? No? Can't get enough people to fall for the experimental jab? Let's offer lottery tickets, cash money prizes, incentives and giveaways and make it like a side show in a state fair carnival. What a joke. Vaccines cause more problems than the problem itself. Not enough deaths to make Trump look bad? Pump up the numbers with some nice financial incentives to doctors and hospitals to make sure all of their deaths are coded as covid.

Last fall before the election, I drove to Arizona to visit a college buddy. News said don't go. Spike in new cases. Hospitals overflowing and temporary morgues being set up. My friend and I spent a week going out to eat Mexican food every day and didn't wear a mask once. No physical evidence of hospitals being flooded. No shortage of body bags. No bodies piled in the streets and alleys. It was all fear and hype by the government "experts".

I don't believe a word Fauci, the CDC, the WHO or any other quasi-government "expert" entity has said, even if my life depended on it. In my mid-70s, I've never worn a mask. Or followed any of the other made-up useless rules. I'm not getting the vaccine. According to what I read, I should have been dead by now.

I will die eventually but you can count on it not being from lung cancer or a car accident or heart disease. It will miraculously be from covid even though I have never taken a test to prove it otherwise.

35 posted on 06/28/2021 11:04:29 AM PDT by HotHunt
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To: HotHunt
"There were so many deaths from covid in the US that I have gone since December 2019 to present and don't know a soul who has had covid or died from covid. How can that be possible? Sick people all over the place and 600,000+ people gone just like that and I didn't notice a thing. Poof! "

The Mississippi River flooding in 2019 caused $20 Billion worth of damage spread across 19 states. Now, I don't personally know anyone affected by that flooding, but I don't think the flooding was some giant conspiracy theory invented by the government and the media.

I don't know why you haven't known anyone who's had COVID-19. I certainly do. I've known at least two dozen people - close personal friends or co-workers - who've had COVID-19. I know (through family) several who've died from it and others who've come close. I personally know a family with a teenage son who was nearly hospitalized (his brother was fine) with COVID-19. The whole family got it when dad brought it home from work (he's a cop). And my area was never hit particularly hard (too spread out, I suspect; I hate cities). I have a lot of friends in the medical community (mostly doctors and nurses) who have been in the thick of this from the start. They've seen more than their fair share of evidence that this is entirely too real.

I've also followed the posts of several practicing physicians here on FR who've had plenty of experience treating critically ill patients in with COVID-19. They're good people and worth paying attention to as well.

36 posted on 06/28/2021 11:16:47 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
I never said the covid wasn't real or people hadn't gotten sick or died from it. I said it has been overblown for political reasons.

I still don't believe most of what I read or hear. Everybody has an agenda and a narrative. My agenda is that I don't trust any of them.

37 posted on 06/28/2021 11:30:53 AM PDT by HotHunt
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To: HotHunt

No argument there. President Reagan taught us to “trust but verify” many years ago!


38 posted on 06/28/2021 11:37:05 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
Look, maybe I was too cranky with you earlier. I apologize if I was off base.

But how do you verify anything anymore? Everybody has a spin or an agenda or a narrative they are trying to mold the storyline into. Everybody is getting paid by someone.

We can't trust the news organizations any longer. Most of them out and out lie about the facts and make things up. CNN and MSNBC almost brag outlaid about how they fake it. The NYTimes, Washington ComPost, etc. are all notorious liars.

So I think even Reagan would've had trouble "verifying" the facts in this day and age.

Me? I am a big skeptic and cynic.

Thanks for being a stand up guy and taking my abuse. I'm sorry for being a dick.

39 posted on 06/28/2021 3:24:33 PM PDT by HotHunt
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To: HotHunt
"Look, maybe I was too cranky with you earlier. I apologize if I was off base."

Not at all; I didn't take offense. I think all of us can get a bit short at times. As long as we're coming from a place of honesty and integrity, I'm game to have even a spirited discussion.

"But how do you verify anything anymore? Everybody has a spin or an agenda or a narrative they are trying to mold the storyline into. Everybody is getting paid by someone."

That's a really great question, and unfortunately, I don't think there's a simple answer anymore. You're absolutely right that the news media has become absolute garbage. Even when they aren't outright lying, they're usually incompetent in their reporting. You see that a lot in the science reporting where the headline is sometimes contradicted by the story content and the story content is often precisely wrong given the particular study or other source material. So my typical answer is that - when it's available - look to the source material. And critically evaluate that as well. Ask questions like "is this source being vetted by lots of others, such as a peer-reviewed journal?" And "is this source known for accurate information or does it freely publish nonsense?" I'll take the information in the source material and consider it against background material I know on the subject to see if it makes sense. If I don't know much about the subject, but it's important to me to understand whether this source is accurate, I'll research the underlying subject so I can put their claims into context.

It's a lot of work, but you can eventually start short-cutting things a little by finding sources that consistently give reliable, verifiable information and also by finding sources that regularly publish garbage (so they can be immediately discounted when somebody throws something your way put out by such a source). When it comes to news media stories, that should only ever be a starting point unless it's a pure entertainment piece. Even something as simple as "so and so did X and is charged with Y", you start asking questions like "what are the elements of the criminal act Y in that particular jurisdiction and does that fit with the description of what they did? Oh, it doesn't? Then there's probably a lot missing or misstated in this story."

"Me? I am a big skeptic and cynic."

You and me both. With each claim made, I always begin with "does this make sense, given everything I know". The more extraordinary the claim, the more extraordinary the evidence I want to see to back it up. And there are times I've been truly surprised by something that sounded crazy and turned out to be true. But those times are pretty rare. Most of the time, when somebody reports some crazy thing has happened or been discovered, it's overblown nonsense. I won't say that I've seen everything there is to see, but at my age you start to notice that patterns repeat. When something doesn't fit the pattern, you should immediately be even more skeptical of it. If it sounds wrong, it usually is.

Some basic things I've come to understand include:

Anyway, in short, you're right that it's a challenge anymore to get a straight answer. But I still think it's worthwhile to seek real truth. I wish you and yours all the best!

40 posted on 06/28/2021 8:27:04 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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