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To: HotHunt
"The CDC's own reports (last summer and then again this spring) indicate that only 6% of the reported covid deaths in the US are from actual covid."

No, their reports said that about 6% of the death certificates didn't list anything besides COVID-19. If COVID-19 is listed as the Underlying Cause of Death in Section 32 Part I of a US Standard Certificate of Death, then it caused the death. Part 1 of Section 32 lists the chain of morbid events leading directly to death, from the UCoD to the immediate cause of death. For COVID-19, that might look like "hypoxemia due to ARDS due to COVID-19". COVID-19 caused that death. That chain of events must only have direct links. In other words, you wouldn't put "hypoexmia due to COVID-19 due to cancer" because cancer doesn't cause COVID-19.

The comorbidities you're talking about are listed in Part 2. That section is for conditions which complicated survival, but were not part of the chain of events leading directly to death. So if a patient has diabetes or hypertension, those conditions are listed in Part 2. A person can live for decades with either of those, but if they get COVID-19, it escalates to ARDS, and they die from lack of oxygen, that's a COVID-19 death.

Further, if the wrong cause were simply listed for a bunch of deaths, deaths from those causes would go down and total deaths would remain the same. Except that deaths from heart disease, cancer, etc. didn't go down in 2020. Total deaths went up. By about 534,000. That's an over 18% jump from 2019. A normal year-over-year increase is 0.3% - 0.7%. So all the normal heart disease and cancer deaths were there, but suddenly there was a massive (World War II level) spike in deaths and it happened in a year when doctors and nurses around the world reported losing patients to a new disease.

33 posted on 06/28/2021 9:26:47 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
Whatever you wrote, I don't agree with. I read their news releases twice and that is not what I read. The media, of course, only tells you what they want to tell you so its entirely possible I have it wrong. But I don't think so.

Biggest bunch of gobbledygook I ever heard of. Lead me into the long weeds so I get lost in your facts and statistics.

There were so many deaths from covid in the US that I have gone since December 2019 to present and don't know a soul who has had covid or died from covid.

How can that be possible? Sick people all over the place and 600,000+ people gone just like that and I didn't notice a thing. Poof!

Your argument reminds me of the same kind the climate change proponents use and yet after 50 years, the earth is still here and not burnt to a crisp yet. But just give us another 10-12 years or so and it will happen. The debate is over. The science is settled.

If you empty your wallet to me now, I can prevent the temperature of the earth from rising one degree one hundred years from now. 3 card Monte.

Climate change and the covid pandemic have both been one big smoke and mirrors. I believe virus pandemic industrial complex are just getting warmed up to start a new scam that will run for decades. The Delta variant is upon us already. Believe what you want because if it doesn't pan out, don't worry. Someone else will have their own facts to prove their point of view.

Wear masks? Don't wear masks. Social distance? Or not. Lockdown in your homes? Yes but it doesn't really work but let's do it anyway. Get the vaccine? Yes? No? Can't get enough people to fall for the experimental jab? Let's offer lottery tickets, cash money prizes, incentives and giveaways and make it like a side show in a state fair carnival. What a joke. Vaccines cause more problems than the problem itself. Not enough deaths to make Trump look bad? Pump up the numbers with some nice financial incentives to doctors and hospitals to make sure all of their deaths are coded as covid.

Last fall before the election, I drove to Arizona to visit a college buddy. News said don't go. Spike in new cases. Hospitals overflowing and temporary morgues being set up. My friend and I spent a week going out to eat Mexican food every day and didn't wear a mask once. No physical evidence of hospitals being flooded. No shortage of body bags. No bodies piled in the streets and alleys. It was all fear and hype by the government "experts".

I don't believe a word Fauci, the CDC, the WHO or any other quasi-government "expert" entity has said, even if my life depended on it. In my mid-70s, I've never worn a mask. Or followed any of the other made-up useless rules. I'm not getting the vaccine. According to what I read, I should have been dead by now.

I will die eventually but you can count on it not being from lung cancer or a car accident or heart disease. It will miraculously be from covid even though I have never taken a test to prove it otherwise.

35 posted on 06/28/2021 11:04:29 AM PDT by HotHunt
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