Posted on 06/27/2021 11:11:52 AM PDT by BeauBo
(President Trump's Operation Warp Speed Update)
(66% of Adults have at least a first shot - Vaccination slow but steady - Cases, Hospitalizations and Deaths very low with flat trends)
Total Vaccine Doses Delivered: 381,282,720 (21,434,300 J&J)
Administered: 323,327,328 (12,256,008 J&J)
People Vaccinated, At Least One Dose: 179,261,269
Fully Vaccinated: 153,028,665
(Excerpt) Read more at covid.cdc.gov ...
“ …When I see people freak out over a 1/100,000 risk of a non-life threatening reaction, and get into a contest of who “cares” more; to me, they sound like a bunch of irrational frightened schoolgirls….”
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Well, IMHO, they are a subset of our “weak sister” demographic.
@ 38. I will defer to you as I have not sacrificed in the same way, FRiend. And -— I still understand the reaction of the media to the virus for the last 18 months is complete bulls#!t. For goodness sake the Lancent even lied. Everyone I know - friends and close relatives are vaxxed. So indeed it needs to work.
Hundreds of thousands of American lives. Millions - if not tens of millions - of lives worldwide.
I agree with you that media has spun COVID to ridiculous degrees, as they spin every significant issue to assist their political preferences. Many in the scientific community politicized their evaluations, like Fauci, and the Lancet published smear job on hydroxychloroquine, that had to be retracted.
I personally don’t think there is reasonable value in vaccinating pre-pubescent school kids, but I have heard of outbreaks around high school sports teams. I am not emotionally wedded to any policy position on what age is appropriate for vaccination - let the chips fall where they may, it is other people’s job to make those calls.
Whenever I point out facts or arguments that can be construed as in favor of vaccination, I get all kinds of abusive personal insults. It is routine around here, from a handful of folks. It is like they are trying to censor or cancel anything and anyone that fails to support their position (even when those positions are deep out in left field).
I appreciate that you have your own views on these issues, and you seem well reasoned and considerate. So sorry for snapping back at you, FRiend.
Cheers BeauBo! Agree to respectfully agree as well as at times respectfully disagree with folks. These are crazy days. ‘Snapping’ or responding passionately is fine when the heart is not mean spirited and I would be a bit hypocritical if I made a claim I don’t do it. I read your posts with true curiosity.
Checking info about the latest anti-vax poster boy, Dr. Robert Malone. Some bio information about him is false. There are claims that he is 45-55 years of age but invented mRNA vaccines in 1988. 22 years of age? Highly doubtful.
One example:
https://heightzone.com/dr-robert-malone-wikipedia/
I am not buying the 2 for 3 study. It is wildly out of step with everything else that I have been seeing.
When I skimmed through it, I saw a consistent pattern of cherry picking data, to ensure the most anti-vaccine outcome possible. Agenda driven.
For percentages of adverse vaccine reactions, they chose to use the Dutch reporting system to represent all of Europe, even though that system was the single most extreme outlier of all the European reporting systems- almost twenty times the rate of the German system, for example.
When calculating the benefits of vaccination, they reduced the effectiveness of vaccination, by not using fully vaccinated effectiveness, but deliberately watering it down, by averaging fully vaccinated effectiveness, with the effectiveness measured at other partially vaccinated points in time (like one week after the first shot, when effectiveness is near zero).
And then, to further artificially minimize the benefits of vaccination, they based it on only the 4-6 week assessment window used in the expedited trials. Clearly, vaccine induced immunity persists well beyond that window, and will continue to strongly protect against many, many times more cases, hospitalizations and deaths over the ensuing weeks and months (depending on how the disease is spreading at the time).
They explicitly acknowledge these concerns (in the body of the paper, so it can pass peer review) - but you would have to read the paper to see how dramatically skewed it was, by the methods they explicitly adopted. Yes, if you adopt those methods, you get that result, the reviewers can confirm. Everybody else is going to just read the summary, and walk away with the 2 for 3 headline however, which I think is a ridiculous mis-representation of the real situation.
We have over 600,000 dead from COVID in the USA. Do we have 400,000 dead from the vaccine, as 2 for 3 would predict? 100,000?
Out of the few thousand reports in VAERS of people who died after having received vaccination, I think it likely that the great bulk were coincidental deaths, rather than caused by the vaccine. And of those few actually killed by the vaccine, I believe the great majority were simply too frail to withstand the stress of any immune challenge.
The oldest and sickest were vaccinated, including almost the entire nursing home population (whose life expectancy is in the months anyway) - even hospice patients were vaccinated in significant percentages. A cold draft would kill some of those.
Nowadays, over 99% of the Americans who die from COVID each day (down to about 300-400/day) are people who failed to get fully vaccinated.
It is obvious to me that the protective effect of the vaccines dwarfs (by many orders of magnitude) the fatal side effects that so rarely occur.
Very interesting!
For all you covid vaxxers. Its been nice knowing you. 😉
Of course its evil its depopulation.
The vaccines are not FDA approved. That tells you everything you need to know.
Yeh take a dangerous experimental vaccine for a virus with a 99.7% survival rate. Who’s the moron? 😆
Why? what’s going to happen to you? If you are that afraid of covid get the vaccine.
Right. Because FDA approval is a magic talisman. I thought you antivaxxers didn’t trust the government. But now you trust the FDA.. sunning consistency there but what I have come to expect from the Q contingent. Have a nice day
Being afraid of covid is like being afraid of a bad cold. take D3 and zinc everyday and you won’t even get it.
When something is so bad the FDA won’t approve it you don’t want to take it.
From your lips to G*d’s ears.
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