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To: RoosterRedux

I think you can take home three key things.

First, they seem absolute in that it’s not anything of ours (secret lab project, etc).

Second, our technology gain in the past decade has reached a level where we can ‘see’ them and record the moment. So just having pilots say they saw them is now backed up with film/data.

Third, the Pentagon seems to say they really don’t think it’s the Russians or Chinese advancing. One statement in an interview went to the level of saying this ‘show’ was a hundred to a thousand years more advanced than what we have currently.

So the bottom line? Nothing. You can’t say it’s alien...until you down one of their vehicles.


7 posted on 06/26/2021 8:17:53 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

I think that’s an accurate assessment.


11 posted on 06/26/2021 8:29:08 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: pepsionice

You can’t take home the first point. The government lies like hell, and would certainly lie about that one.

I’d argue that you can’t take home the second point, as all of the released videos and photos are garbage quality.

Finally, you can dismiss the third thing as well. Why would the Pentagon say it’s the Russians or Chinese, even if they thought it was?

The report is nothing, exactly as I expected, and the Government is lying and hoping to distract with this UFO nonsense.


15 posted on 06/26/2021 8:37:11 AM PDT by dinodino ( )
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To: pepsionice
they seem absolute in that it’s not anything of ours

Most of these kinds of things are in black programs that few actually know about and no one can talk about so all that statement means is that in some things our security might be even better than it is supposed to be.

22 posted on 06/26/2021 8:50:03 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: pepsionice

First, they seem absolute in that it’s not anything of ours (secret lab project, etc).

Nor would they, as it would be a secret...

Second, our technology gain in the past decade has reached a level where we can ‘see’ them and record the moment. So just having pilots say they saw them is now backed up with film/data.

The sensors track stuff on gimbals and re-center/slew/cue automatically, not as a human eye would see it. Unless both “object” and aircraft were on the same bearing and altitude, everything would appear out of this world regarding “flight profile”. IR/Thermal etc do not “see” nor do displays “depict” what the sensor “sees” in a manner suitable to discretion of the human eye. If you’ve lived under night vision for a bit, you’d get that.

Third, the Pentagon seems to say they really don’t think it’s the Russians or Chinese advancing. One statement in an interview went to the level of saying this ‘show’ was a hundred to a thousand years more advanced than what we have currently.

That’s just BS coming from BSers. How would one know what tech will be in a 100k years? Non-science and fiction filled baloney.

So the bottom line? Nothing. You can’t say it’s alien...until you down one of their vehicles.

You can’t down one, as they are appearnaces of unexplained anomalies and sensor input not images of a tangible thing. IR sees in the invisible to the human eye spectrum, therefore what is being “seen” is simply an adaption of a non-intelligble spectrum to a humanly visible interpretation.

Most of these sightings are of “round or disk” shaped imagery, like the faring of a sensors due to resolution limits or hardware characteristics, not actual imagery of an object.

Look at a cigarette lighter flame with a 3rd gen image intensifier tube unit ( PVS 14 etc) all you’ll see is a glaring flare that’s roundish or if a really good tube with very high signal to noise ratio, and high gain (80k+ times) a hexagonal image of a...flame. Looks like a space craft to me...but then again, I’ve never seen a space craft nor has anyone else, alien, I mean. Just what to ‘they” look like?

Anyways, Fermi still speaks loudly. “So, where are they?”


32 posted on 06/26/2021 9:05:52 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" )
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To: pepsionice
You can’t say it’s alien...until you down one of their vehicles

Are you pushing for an intergalactic war, one we can't possible win?

35 posted on 06/26/2021 9:29:05 AM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: pepsionice

But we recovered a vehicle in 1947 in Roswell. So... they’re just lying again.


40 posted on 06/26/2021 10:24:01 AM PDT by servantoftheservant
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