Posted on 06/25/2021 10:05:06 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Scientists at the University of Kent in the UK have published new research that concludes it is most likely the virus that causes Covid-19 was circulating in Wuhan in November 2019, or even weeks earlier in October, before any cases linked to the Huanan wet market were reported in December 2019.
The research, which used methods from conservation science, according to reports, finds that the most probable date of the emergence of the virus was November 17, 2019.
The paper notes that SARS-CoV-2 could have first appeared from early October and concludes that it had already circled the globe by January 2020.
The findings correlate EXACTLY with U.S. Intelligence that at least three researchers working at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, where coronavirus experiments were being conducted, were hospitalised in mid November 2019 with symptoms matching those of COVID.
The conclusion of the paper also dovetails with previously unconfirmed claims by the South China Morning Post that there exists Chinese government data documenting initial cases on November 17, 2019, the exact same day that the new paper cites as the most likely time of the emergence of the virus.
The evidence is now overwhelming that the lab was the origin point of the pandemic.
As we reported yesterday, a scientist at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Center in Seattle claims to have located genetic sequences from early coronavirus cases in China that had been deleted from both US and Chinese databases.
The sequences show the virus was circulating in Wuhan before any cases were linked to the infamous wet market, as they are three steps more similar to the bat coronaviruses than the virus samples from the market.
Commenting on the subsequent deletion of the data from both Chinese and US databases by Chinese scientists Dr Jesse Bloom noted that it “seems likely that the sequences were deleted to obscure their existence.”
Alina Chan, a researcher with Harvard’s Broad Institute tweeted “Why would scientists ask international databases to delete key data that informs us about how Covid-19 began in Wuhan?”
Why would scientists ask international databases to delete key data that informs us about how Covid-19 began in Wuhan?
That's the question you can answer for yourselves. — Alina Chan (@Ayjchan) June 22, 2021
Yet another study was also published Thursday in the Scientific Reports journal that concludes SARS-CoV-2 binds to human receptors much more efficiently than other species, suggesting that the virus was already adapted to humans when it first emerged.
The team of Australian scientists who conducted the research said that while it doesn’t prove the lab leak hypothesis, it proves that the theory cannot be ruled out.
Previous studies have noted that the genetic sequence of the virus, ‘CGG-CGG’, does not occur anywhere in nature, yet it is the exact combination commonly used in ‘gain of function’ research, which is known to have been used with coronaviruses at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
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My family had it over Thanksgiving 2019. High school daughter came home from school saying everybody at school was sick with something. So it already tore through our youngsters. Nobody knew what it was, doctors didn’t know how to treat it and nothing they gave us worked. Just had to ride it out for three weeks.
RE: High school daughter came home from school saying everybody at school was sick with something
How do you know it was Covid and not influenza?
Looks like some professors from the University of Kent are about to be suspended from Twitter. Twitter’s authorities know it came from the wet market. It is settled science. And Trump has to be wrong.
I had it early January of 2020; still not back to 100 percent (I had done a half-marathon just a month or so before, now I get huffing at 10K). Did get my sense of smell and taste back, finally.
RE: I had done a half-marathon just a month or so before, now I get huffing at 10K
Hey, how’d you like to trade your condition for mine ( I never got infected )? I can’t even do 2.5k without huffing. :)
RE: I took a flight to Chicago for the holiday and a few days later I was pretty sick for a couple of weeks.
Same question I asked Maskot - how do you know it was Covid and not a nasty case of the flu virus?
If you have not been vaccinated, the best way to determine this is to test your Covid antibodies.
I did just read on social media a comment by a family returning from wuhan China in Oct 2019 and they all were sick on the plane. They didn’t know what they had, came back to the USA and all recovered. Now they are pretty sure it was covid.
Who cares and so what?!?!?! Everyone knows the PRCs unleashed this upon the world and everyone knows the world will do nothing about it!
“My family had it over Thanksgiving 2019. High school daughter came home from school saying everybody at school was sick with something. So it already tore through our youngsters. Nobody knew what it was, doctors didn’t know how to treat it and nothing they gave us worked. Just had to ride it out for three weeks.”
It may or may not have been Wuhan Flu, you’d need a test to know for sure but you make a great point.
Last year we needed to test high school students to see how many had had it.
The antibody tests begun last year showed the vast majority of people who had it did not even know.
A coordinated sampling if high school and college students could have greatly informed us of the dangers to the populace in general it is basic epidemiology but was never even considered or discussed. It would have harmed the fear narrative.
Then, one of my sons got it and was sick from Christmas to mid January.
That son and I belong to the same PPO and have the same primary care doc that we had before the doctor joined the PPO.
Being 80+, I got a lot of tests of all types and never got a diagnosis.
That son lost over 30#'s and missed more work in a month than in his previous 15 years at the same company.
Our 20 year old grandson got the crud a few days after Christmas was okay on 2 Jan. 2020.
My wife and no women in our family got the crud.
My wife had worked with this doctor in a private practice when he first came to our area.
So she asked the doctor what I had and our grandson had.
His reply, "Probably the same thing, and we don't know what it was. It was probably some virus!"
Never too late to start!
Been doing run/walk/run (Galloway), way easier than anything else I’ve tried.
Kind of regret I never did the antibody test, I mean I’m in pretty good shape for 59, hitting the weights and running 4+ days a week and was at 20 percent bodyfat, and it just kicked my ass. Had the flu before, and very bad case of it, but this was a whole ‘nother thing.
Lost my sister to it.
The two things about this damned virus that made and make it so difficult - the long period between exposure and illness and the fact that it seems to quite often cause *no* effects even if the person is contagious as hell.
I had it in early ‘20, 2nd week of January; I have a post below with the gory details, still not completely back and I’m a gym-rat and runner.
My loss of sense of smell and taste was very evident from a month after whatever for about 6 month. That was when I could smell our morning coffee brewing in the morning and taste it again.
My wife is close to being a chef, and she has some great bowl recipes and special recipes for dinner where she measures every spice and whatever is added. So those recipes never change, and in the last 2 months, they have tasted better.
“had it in early ‘20, 2nd week of January; I have a post below with the gory details, still not completely back and I’m a gym-rat and runner.”
Yes. I had something around the same time. It was not bad, I seemed to have a low fever and was out of it, in a fog, for a week or so. Kind of tired.
I dont know if it was Covid. I would have to take a T cell test to know for sure.
There “were” reports of Chinese with a strange pneumonia September of 2019.
Because it wasn’t. She knows flu. This wasn’t it.
Also, I Know flu. This wasn’t it. Far far from it.
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