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COVID will lurk on every cruise ship. The question is how much.
South Florida Sun-Sentinel ^ | June 20, 2021 | Ron Hurtibise,

Posted on 06/20/2021 9:38:51 AM PDT by Capt. Tom

Recent reports of COVID-19 infections aboard cruise ships — along with simple math — suggest that it will be nearly impossible for any cruise line to return to the seas without the coronavirus lurking.

All vaccines are less than 100% effective, so chances are strong that at least some passengers will be infected among the thousands aboard even “fully vaccinated” voyages.

Chances of more severe outbreaks are even greater in light of a court ruling Friday in favor of Gov. Ron DeSantis, who wants to stop cruise lines from requiring vaccinations.

Cruise lines faced with infections will have to perform a delicate balancing act of preventing the virus’ spread while minimizing inconveniences to uninfected passengers and crew members.

Failure to succeed on either front could spark a public relations nightmare and diminish consumers’ confidence in cruise lines’ abilities to protect passengers, experts say.

Looming over the industry’s resumption is a shared desire of industry workers, health officials and passengers to avoid a replay of the gut-wrenching drama of spring 2020, when outbreaks turned numerous ships at sea into disaster zones.

Bob Jarvis, a law professor at Nova Southeastern University, says the industry should expect infections to occur on every ship.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Travel
KEYWORDS: covid; cruiseships; fearfearfearfearfear; fearporn; fearthefearingfear; fearthevariant; floridareporter; ronhurtibise; wereallgonnadiesir
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

“Why shouldn’t the same thing happen with Coronavirus?”

The people taking cruises are going to find out.

I wouldn’t take one for free if NORO and COVID didn’t exist, but that’s just me. Maybe I’d take one those river cruises on a boat that holds about 50 people. Nah, probably not. I like to call my shots when I travel.


21 posted on 06/20/2021 10:20:37 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Any comment might be sarcasm, or not. It depends. Often I'm not sure either.)
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To: fireman15

You must have read these paragraphs in the article.- Tom

“There’s no doubt there will be COVID cases on ships” as cruise lines resume operations from Florida ports and elsewhere over the coming weeks, said Michael Winkleman, a Miami-based maritime attorney. “July is critically important for the entire industry. They’re going to be under a microscope. It’s important for them to get it right.”

If they get it wrong — if an outbreak infects enough passengers that a ship will be forced to cut its voyage short and return to its home port — “there’s a chance that all voyages could be canceled for the rest of 2021,” Winkleman said.


22 posted on 06/20/2021 10:24:40 AM PDT by Capt. Tom (.It's COVID 2021 - The Events, not us, are still in charge -Tom)
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Did read something interesting, Royal Caribbran has finally decided on their Florida ports unvaccinated (heathens!) fee: $136.

RC also issued a bunch of gobbledey-gook about how they are going to mask full-time indoors, and separate vaccinated from unvaccinated -- but outside of dining and shows, nothing about how to keep that same mix of people from using ClubRoyale or SeaPass on common areas of the ship like the casino and the adult beverages therein which require mask removal to drink cough cough lofl...

23 posted on 06/20/2021 10:28:31 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (Eric Coomer of Dominion Voting Systems Is The Blue Dress.)
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To: Capt. Tom

“Shhhh ... I hear a danger lurking!”


24 posted on 06/20/2021 10:30:15 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Captain Peter Blood
The ships were not disaster zones, just go back and look at the Diamond Princess cruise ship data last year.

Here is the data from Wikipedia, for reference.

Note that of the 14 deaths, five were in their 80s, five were in their 70s, one was in their 60s, and three families declined to state.

Also, of the 696 people who tested positive, 410 (59%) were asymptomatic.


Deaths[edit]

# Date[a]Age Gnd. From[b]Notes Ref.
1 2020.02.20 87 M Japan (Kanagawa) Hospitalized on 2020.02.11[c][2][89]
2 2020.02.20 84 F Japan (Tokyo) Hospitalized on 2020.02.12 [2][89]
3 2020.02.23 80s M Japan Hospitalized on 2020.02.05 [3]
4 2020.02.25 80s M Japan (Tokyo) Hospitalized on 2020.02.09 [4]
5 2020.02.28 70s F Japan (Tokyo) Hospitalized on 2020.02.07 [5]
6 2020.02.28 [d]M United Kingdom First death of a UK citizen from COVID-19 [6][91]
7 2020.03.01 78 M Australia Evacuated to a hospital in Perth, Australia[e][7]
8 2020.03.06 M Hong Kong [8]
9 2020.03.19 70s M Canada [9]
10 2020.03.22 70s M Japan [10]
11 2020.03.22 70s M Japan [10]
12 2020.03.28 60s F Hong Kong [11]
13 2020.04.09 Japan [12]
14 2020.04.14 70s M Japan (Chiba) Hospitalized on 2020.02.07[f][13]

-PJ
25 posted on 06/20/2021 10:35:40 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (* LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Capt. Tom

Will it be lurking in the halls like a Land Shark, knocking on cabin doors posing as a Jehovah’s Witness?


26 posted on 06/20/2021 10:36:00 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Capt. Tom

EVERY virus “lurks” EVERYWHERE in this world.

We’ve ALWAYS lived with them and we always will.

Sorry folks - we GET sick once in a while..

and, oh yeah... we’re all gonna die from something sometime.
NOBODY gets a pass.

Our society needs to grow up and deal with that fact.


27 posted on 06/20/2021 10:36:47 AM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: Capt. Tom

There is no way to prevent hit pieces that will try to make anyone who is “diagnosed” with Covid after being on a Cruise ship into a media spectacle. We have already seen the havoc intentional false positives using the 40 times oversampled has produced. These a$$clowns like Winkleman are looking for a big payday. It has all been a steaming load of nonsense since the Diamond Princess.


28 posted on 06/20/2021 10:40:58 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: StAnDeliver

It’s mutating every 10 hours as it is.


29 posted on 06/20/2021 10:42:48 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood (https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3804407/posts?q=1&;pag)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Exactly, what it proved was that at least 50% of the population had a cross immunity to the virus. If hygiene had been practiced then the results would have been better, we learned a lot from that data that was ignored by the CDC and NIH.


30 posted on 06/20/2021 10:45:52 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood (https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3804407/posts?q=1&;pag)
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To: joethedrummer

“Our society needs to grow up”

That’s all you need right there. Too many of today’s “conservatives” sound like liberals from a some years ago, just before liberals went completely off the planet mentally.


31 posted on 06/20/2021 10:47:30 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Any comment might be sarcasm, or not. It depends. Often I'm not sure either.)
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To: Capt. Tom

Communism is lurking.


32 posted on 06/20/2021 10:59:37 AM PDT by Baldwin
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To: Capt. Tom

On cruise ships, heart attacks are common. So is Norovirus. And colds, flu, you name it. Covid “infections” are no more dangerous than heart attacks. Why everyone freaks out when tested positive for covid? All it means is you were exposed to the virus and your body is handling it well if you are asymptomatic. It is really not an “infection” if you are asymptomatic.

Those 2 passengers on a recent cruise who tested positive were NOT sick. They did not even pass on the “infection” to anyone else.

With majority of passengers on upcoming cruises already vaccinated, I see less deaths on cruise ships from covid than on land.


33 posted on 06/20/2021 11:01:42 AM PDT by entropy12 (President Trump saved Millions of lives with his warp speed push of vaccines, including my spouse.)
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To: Capt. Tom

The Shun-Sentinel is garbage news.


34 posted on 06/20/2021 11:25:09 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Capt. Tom
"COVID will lurk on every cruise ship. "

So will plenty of other diseases.

35 posted on 06/20/2021 11:28:50 AM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: Capt. Tom
FWIW, I mailed my passport renewal in the second week of May and received the new one in the mail yesterday.

-PJ

36 posted on 06/20/2021 11:30:05 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (* LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Captain Peter Blood
You DO know who Chris Farley was, don't you?   winking face ROFL face
37 posted on 06/20/2021 11:36:19 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: SoCal Pubbie; Captain Peter Blood
Will it be lurking in the halls like a Land Shark, knocking on cabin doors posing as a Jehovah’s Witness?

"Covidgram!"

 face with tears of joy face with tears of joy face with tears of joy face with tears of joy

38 posted on 06/20/2021 11:37:50 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: fireman15
These a$$clowns like Winkleman are looking for a big payday. It has all been a steaming load of nonsense since the Diamond Princess.

The cruise lines have fended off and frustrated the American litigious law firms and ambulance chasers, by flagging the vessels in foreign countries.

Could you imagine the endless lawsuits by disgruntled cruisers being pushed by the American lawyers if the Cruise ships were American flagged.

I realize our small river cruise boats are American flagged, as is one cruise ship in Hawaii, but these big cruise ships hold 2,00-5,000 passengers not a few hundred, and travel worldwide in some rough water and to some rough ports. -Tom

39 posted on 06/20/2021 11:38:16 AM PDT by Capt. Tom (.It's COVID 2021 - The Events, not us, are still in charge -Tom)
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To: Capt. Tom

The biggest issue will be the food poisoning that occurs.


40 posted on 06/20/2021 12:36:28 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (I need more money. )
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