Even 'smart' people fall for that. I used to, until Q woke me up (and I'm only reasonably smart).
Posted on 06/18/2021 12:47:08 AM PDT by wannabegeek
The Israeli government “led the world” with the roll out of its Pfizer vaccine to “protect them” from a bug that is not life threatening to the vast majority.
It should now alert the world as to the consequences because it presently leads the world in the resultant slaughter of its own citizens.
No vax in history comes close to the scale of deaths and adverse reactions associated with the experimental Covid jabs and many in the past have been pulled for far less.
This should at least prompt caution and a suspension of the program until the matter is fully, impartially and responsibly investigated. There is plenty that can be done to protect the small percentage of (in the mainl, very old) people truly at risk.
One must suspect then that in light of the fact that the vax push continues regardless, whilst every effort is made to keep the public uniformed as to the harm being done to them and their fellow citizens, the effects these vaxes are having are desired.
In the case of the Israeli government, the slaughter of Israeli Jews is intentional or at the very least acceptable to the architects of this attack on liberty. If this were not the case, they would immediate cease and desist injecting people who are at little or no risk from the alleged virus in the first place.
Indeed, the Israeli government has already killed far more Israelis in 2021 through vaccines than have been killed by Hamas rockets (the latter just 10, according to Google).
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Thank you for continuing to post. The kid like many others had no health issues. He got the jab and a few days later he is in the hospital for an inflamed heart. He is lucky... some have died.
And this issue is not restricted to young men and boys. As I have mentioned in other threads that you have participated in... my little brother who has been a captain at a major airline for decades was compelled to get the vaccination. He did so with no worries. At his mandatory 6 month FAA first class physical a month later he was diagnosed with a swollen and inflamed heart. 30 years with no health or especially heart problems ever. What a surprise... the doctor said that he had seen other pilots with the same condition after getting the experimental vaccines.
Your level of obtuseness in the face of many people's personal experiences is shocking to say the least. Keep it up!
Nobody said that the mere act of quoting from the VAERS website was "miss information and projection".
The disclaimers on the VAERS website are sensible. But your use of them to brush aside an increase of the magnitude that we have seen is ridiculous.
For example if we saw that one year there are 150 reports and the next year there are 200 reports, then it would be overblown to assume that was neccesarily due to a new vaccine being more dangerous than the norm. It is after all far from an exact measure of how safe vaccines are.
However in the real world what we saw is a long pattern of year over year of around 150 to 200 deaths reported then BANG! over 5000 already in one year.
To go back to those little disclaimers is absurd. Those disclaimers mean nothing with an increase that big and unprecedented. It is ridiculous to brush that aside and then get mad at those who are not as insane as you being alarmed.
Thank you AndyTheBear. Very well stated. We have been interacting with a person who devotes 99% of his/her time here posting the same seminar style posts over and over again on the same subject. They are very difficult to deal with and you have managed to do it without losing your patience.
Who?
It would appear so....one might have to increase self protective measures until the immune system bounces back after the first dose...not so much after the second.
Last month we paid last respect of one of my wife's elderly patient was 98-years retired medical doctor the son thought she might had been experimented with at the Cedars Sinai hospital, we were at Forest Lawn in Los Angeles, California, we never actually seen the cemetery too busy too buring lots of dead people.
I think the vaccines are working but still crude and rushed before being totally vetted. It might be necessary now to screen young persons for cardiac abnormalities before allowing them to get the shots. It is never a good idea for pregnant mothers to get any sort of shot while pregnant. (I think gestational age might have something to do with some of the still births reported with MOTHERS WHO GOT THE VAX. If given during earlier stages while the fetus cells haven’t quite finished differentiating themselves into the various organs that make up a baby’s body, it might be plausible that mrna vaxes might disrupt the fetal cell replicative and differentiation process at key points, forcing the cells to make the spike proteins and thus disrupting the cells of the fetus.)
Sorry... were you saying that you never “saw the cemetery SO busy?”
I find the language of the article fascinating, designed to indict the Israeli government as slaughterer’s of its people. Israeli’s, very conscious of what happened to Jews in WW2, would be particularly sensitive to any claims of genocide being foisted upon them. I should like to know more about this “news” source...
I'm also expecting update who wrote the article with data chart. Israel very conscious what happen to the Jews in WW2, oh yeah Israel really slaughtering their own people, I certainly agree with that, for not properly informing Israelis the jab is experimental mRNA shots like Nazi's experimented on Jewish captives during WW2, what's up with that? Even if it'd be real conventional vaccine like protein from SARS-C0V-2, is it even necessary to prevent mild upper respiratory track infection (like common cold) with 99% are asympthomatic? I pray those stupid-dumb C0VID hoaxers-conspirators really exposed, and whoever came up with it in U.S., UK, China, WHO be rounded up to solitary confinement to face Nuremberg like trials for crimes against humanity all guilty will go to gallows.
2aProtectsTheRest has consistently been the most prolific Covid fear monger and now vaccine booster on the forum since they showed up here a little more than a year ago. As I am a retired Hazmat Team leader and had many times more vaccines than most others during my career with no noteable negative consequences I would typically be advocating for most vaccines myself. But the Covid situation is something completely out of the ordinary. The number of people having difficulty with the experimental "vaccines" is outrageous. One would think that with the moniker that 2aProtectsTheRest has chosen one would expect to find them in discussions on firearms but I actually have never found them to have any apparent interest in this subject. Reloading cartridges and spending time at the range is one of my hobbies, on many occasions I have tried to get them to expound a bit on that subject. But it seems that they either have no actual knowledge in this area or they refuse to comment on basically anything other than Covid.
It is extremely odd for 2aProtectsTheRest to bug out after receiving a trouncing, but this seems to be one of those occasions. I try not to comment about people without including them in the tag line; in this case this I definitely would have preferred not to.
The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists reports that “no differences have been seen when comparing pregnant women participating in the v-safe pregnancy registry with the background rates of adverse pregnancy outcomes.”
There is no evidence that the COVID-19 vaccines is having any adverse effect on pregnancy. I don’t disagree that there is some risk involved, but I would point out that the actual evidence to date does not indicate any negative change to pregnancy outcomes. Some pregnancies result in miscarriage. Some result in stillbirth. The rates of those terrible outcomes is unchanged with mothers who choose to get vaccinated.
Troll, identified.
Organs are differentiated starting at week 4 (you know, before women even realize they’re “late”) and functioning by 10 weeks.
With regards to increased reporting in VAERS, a few things have changed. First, there is a ton of news coverage about the vaccines, side effects, etc. As the VAERS website itself points out, news coverage about a vaccine increases awareness and sensitivity. People see a lot of coverage and start worrying about every headache and sneezing fit, so reports in VAERS increase. The VAERS website specifically states that reports in VAERS increase with media coverage.
Second, this is the first mass vaccination campaign in a long time and every shot comes with a handout encouraging people to report every possible symptom experienced to VAERS. For many, this is the first time they’re hearing about VAERS. Most vaccinations happen with small children and they’re either too young to communicate that “I had a bad headache after this shot” or “I felt dizzy after this shot”, but every adult with any symptoms is now able to report immediately.
This is also the first major vaccination campaign targeting elderly folks specifically. It makes sense to do so as they’re most at risk for COVID-19 complications, but they’re also most at risk for severe adverse events like major falls, strokes, heart attacks, and death. Most of the bad stuff that happens with our health happens in old age. 87% of the over-65 (not that I consider 65 old, at least not anymore!) population has been vaccinated. Healthcare providers (e.g. nursing home staff, nurses, doctors) are required by law to report all major adverse events to VAERS after a COVID-19 shot - REGARDLESS OF CAUSALITY - BY LAW.
Think about that for a moment: by law, no matter what caused it, if any significant bad event happens with someone’s health after a COVID-19 shot, healthcare providers are required by law to report it to VAERS. So if you have a patient with terminal cancer and they’re given a shot of Pfizer, and they then die from the cancer, their healthcare provider is required by law to report a death to VAERS. That’s new.
I’m not aware of any other vaccine that requires healthcare providers to report adverse events regardless of causality, yet here it is: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/hcproviders/reportingadverseevents.html
From the link:
Healthcare providers are required to report to VAERS the following adverse events after COVID-19 vaccination
Serious AEs regardless of causality. Serious AEs per FDA are defined as:
* Death
* A life-threatening AE
* Inpatient hospitalization or prolongation of existing hospitalization
* A persistent or significant incapacity or substantial disruption of the ability to conduct normal life functions
* A congenital anomaly/birth defect
* An important medical event that based on appropriate medical judgement may jeopardize the individual and may require medical or surgical intervention to prevent one of the outcomes listed above
So yes, volume of reporting has changed, but there are many explanations for why volume has increased. What’s important is whether there are unusual patterns of reports. That’s the whole purpose of VAERS: to find unusual patterns, investigate whether those patterns are random chance or related to the vaccine, and issue new warnings and guidance based on that. How do I know that? Because the VAERS website flat tells you that:
“VAERS is not designed to detect if a vaccine caused an adverse event, but it can identify unusual or unexpected patterns of reporting that might indicate possible safety problems requiring a closer look.” - https://vaers.hhs.gov/faq.html
The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists reports that “no differences have been seen when comparing pregnant women participating in the v-safe pregnancy registry with the background rates of adverse pregnancy outcomes.”
https://www.womenspreventivehealth.org/about/
There is no evidence that the COVID-19 vaccines is having any adverse effect on pregnancy. I don’t disagree that there is some risk involved, but I would point out that the actual evidence to date does not indicate any negative change to pregnancy outcomes. Some pregnancies result in miscarriage. Some result in stillbirth. The rates of those terrible outcomes is unchanged with mothers who choose to get vaccinated.
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For that to be true, then the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists are denying that the ‘vaccines’ are harmful to women at all. Anything that causes blood clots, strokes, anaphylaxis ectc. in mother is harmful to baby.
The Ob Gyn college is singing the deep state tune “No harm!” even though the ‘vaccines’ have chemicals like PEG known to trigger anaphylaxis.
The spikie proteins are known cytotoxins and that’s okay with the Ob Gyn college. The spike proteins disseminate throughout the body within 48 hours including organs like the Ovaries - yup the Ob Gyn school thinks that’s swell.
Nursing babies have shown side effects of ‘vaccines’ but the Ob Gyn school gives it a thumbs up.
Lying ‘observations’ of no harm are not scientifically valid, but when baby’s life is at stake, the Ob Gyn school gives it a big thumbs up.
Hey I wonder if they are paid to comply with Faucists?
Yup. Yup. They are a 501C3 accepting donations and have a 5 year agreement with the federal government:
“Through this five-year cooperative agreement with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA), ACOG is engaging a coalition of national health professional organizations and consumer and patient advocates with expertise in women’s health across the lifespan to develop, review, and update recommendations for women’s preventive healthcare services, including HRSA-sponsored Women’s Preventive Services Guidelines.”
For this biowarfare effort to work, communications channels which would normally warn the public had to be set up and/or captured. Obviously no one experiments on pregnant women so whomever would advise pregnant women not to get the shot HAD to be brought on board, didn’t they?
Crimes against humanity.
No disagreement with you...noting your qualifying statement” I don’t disagree that there is some risk involved, but I would point out that the actual evidence to date does not indicate any negative change to pregnancy outcomes. Some pregnancies result in miscarriage. Some result in stillbirth. The rates of those terrible outcomes is unchanged with mothers who choose to get vaccinated.”
I mentioned plausibility of some harm, given some of the anecdotal stories about “still borns” who apparently had looked horribly damaged when birthed from recently covid vaccinated mothers. I know anecdotal stories can’t be used to discount scientific evidence unless they occur repeatedly in such numbers as to establish a trend that can be used in ways that may correlate with scientific evidence.
So no argument with you about the relative safety of the vaccines for pregnant women. As for covid diagnosed moms who had to have c-sections when we had to intubate them...the babies them selves did fine though we lost a couple of moms(we pulled the rest thru).
There was a similar thread last year on the "Delphi technique". That one essentially depends on breaking the large group into small groups and convincing them that their written input in the small group has contributed to the "group consensus". It hasn't. What is announced to the group as a whole is the pre-determined objective of those who applied the Delphi technique. None of the input from individuals or groups is ever presented to the group as a whole. The group as a whole must take on faith that the results were correct as announced. I believe it was Stalin who commented that it doesn't matter who votes...what matters is who counts the votes. Don't get suckered by these techniques.
That is how these organizations are captured and converged.
The normies are taught to think "oh, professional and trade associations, well then, if the medical associations say it's ok, it must be on the up-and-up."
They also use this in newscasts with a variant of the wrap-up smear: have a Sore-Ass or similar front group with an authoritative focus-grouped or overtly propagandistic name, but really made of activists, issue a press release pretending to be a study.
Then have the august, mature, considered talking heads read the smear, followed by "according to a study performed by TheGenderRelationEquityWorkingGroupComposed ofAllIvyLeaguePhDsBecauseWeF-ingLoveSCIENCECommission".
People need to learn to say instintively, "who in the living F is this group, who died and made them God, and how much did Sore-Ass or Bill Gates *pay* them?"
That's why they basically took over Academia and The Lancet until they got caught.
Pointing out that the media reports might make one think they have a headache maybe to explain the huge spike in deaths reported...verbosity can’t save nonsense from being nonsense.
What...that I didn’t cite off hand that about 4 weeks all major differentiating operations have been completed in the yet unborn BABY! That makes me a troll? Fine..just stay off of my bridge then, you ol’ billy goat gruff!
By the way this “troll” took the Pfizer jabs. But I still think the vaccines needed more vetting!
Even 'smart' people fall for that. I used to, until Q woke me up (and I'm only reasonably smart).
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