Posted on 06/17/2021 1:28:04 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
June 16 (UPI) -- A single dose of one of the two-shot COVID-19 vaccines prevented an estimated 95% of new infections among healthcare workers two weeks after receiving the jab, a study published Wednesday by JAMA Network Open found.
(Excerpt) Read more at upi.com ...
Theoretically yes. But we still do not know for how long just one dose can be effective (or TWO for that matter! and when we need dose #3) — because the vaccines have barely been out or tested...and the “3 week” period between the two doses had more to do with rushing their emergency authorization trials than it did with any major scientific necessity.
Even what you say doesn’t change the fact that the scheduling of a booster and dosages should be adjusted by age, risk, and prior infection. And that there could be more harm than good done by over-immunizing.
“This doesn’t sound right. You can’t prove a negative.”
How this trial worked is of 4000 medical staff 3400 were dosed and 600 were not.
Of the 3400, 39 (1.1%) of them got Covid. Of the 600, 107 (17.8%) of them tested positive.
Some simple math (1.1/17.8) shows the vaccine reduced the cases by 93.6%.
walkingdead wrote: “We need a vaccinated person to be purposely infected to see a true number.’
Agree. Those are called ‘challenge trials’ and are considered too unethical to use with humans, even volunteers.
and they proved this how? exposure to known cases???
The overall push of these jabs is insane and bizarre.
This doesn’t sound right.
You can’t prove a negative.
Besides, out of 109 cases...whee=whooo big numbers...39[or whatever] got infected with 1 shot and the rest had no shot.
That is not 95%.
They are trying awful damn hard to push this crap...too hard.
Another skewed ‘report’....similar to this one....
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3968412/posts
They’re purposely using SMALL number groups to try to prove their experimental-shots-are-great”, false point.
Do they really think people can’t figure their fuzzy math out??
No Sale.
“Theoretically yes. But we still do not know for how long just one dose can be effective”
Correct. There hasn’t been enough time to know for sure, but there is good evidence. Dose one of Pfizer and Moderna produce antibodies, but don’t produce many Memory B Cells.
Without the Memory B Cells being triggered there is no way for the immune system to grant long term protection.
Unfortunately to trigger the Memory B Cells a second dose needs to be delivered with 1 to 6 months. If we wait a year to see how the vaccines hold up, we are right back to most of the population having no immunity.
“Do they really think people can’t figure their fuzzy math out??”
This article is pretty good at laying out the exact numbers involved in the study.
What part of the math do you find “fuzzy?”
There was no mention of a control group.
Did you make that up?
Pipe down Sir, nobody wants to be bombarded with the truth these days, they’d rather enjoy and frolic on their way to the slaughterhouse. heh.
There is so much stupid in what you wrote that I don’t know quite where to start, so I won’t.
Enjoy the natural intelligence God gave you. :)
“the trials ran aground when challenged with the real virus”
That’s one way of saying “all the animal subjects died when exposed to the virus post-vaccination”, I guess.
“Of the 3400, 39 (1.1%) of them got Covid. Of the 600, 107 (17.8%) of them tested positive.”
Which was it? did they “get Covid” or did they “test positive”? Those aren’t the same thing.
“For this study, Charness and his colleagues assessed the effectiveness of one dose of the Moderna vaccine in more than 4,000 healthcare workers ... just under 3,400, or about 84%, of the staff had received one dose of the vaccine by the end of the 42-day study period on Feb. 1”
3400 of the 4000 dosed, the other 16% is the control.
From the study:
“The primary end point was a SARS-CoV-2 reverse transcription–polymerase chain reaction (RT-PCR) positive test.”
For starters.....and, as I said....No Sale....
Look who’s guarding the *study* hen-house....
Conflict of Interest Disclosures: Dr Gupta reported ownership of equity in Moderna and Abbot Pharmaceuticals in the previous 3 years outside the submitted work. Dr Charness reported ownership of equity in Pfizer currently or in the past 3 years outside the submitted work. No other disclosures were reported.
🙄 🙄
Good try, though, vax-pushing n00b.
Why don’t you give me one fact I got wrong? I’m betting you can’t.
So you can’t actually find anything wrong in the math then?
“ This is also why natural immunity may fade quickly.
80% of every population worldwide either resisted becoming infected with covid or were asymptomatic, perfecting their immunity.
At least I’ve yet to find a report otherwise.
Even that floating covid cruise ship had less than 20% infected IIRC…
I believe the reason is Tcells
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