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Southwest Airlines Shut Down Due to Computer Problem
NY Post ^ | 6/15/2021 | David Meyer

Posted on 06/15/2021 2:38:58 PM PDT by conservativeimage

Southwest Airlines grounded flights across the country Tuesday for the second time in less than 24 hours, amid reports of nationwide computer issues.

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To: srmanuel

And the whole point of distributed computing (internet) was to avoid situations where a single failure would shut down the entire network. Apparently that does not get covered in the beginner courses anymore.


21 posted on 06/15/2021 3:38:41 PM PDT by Bernard (“When once the guardian angel has taken flight, everything is lost”. – William H. Seward, 1/12/1861)
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To: conservativeimage

Funny, the Weather Channel still works for me. Surprised Southwest doesn’t check there.


22 posted on 06/15/2021 3:39:56 PM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: conservativeimage

WE have a compass!


23 posted on 06/15/2021 3:43:36 PM PDT by RebelTXRose (Our Lady of Fatima, Pray for us! PRAY THE ROSARY!)
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To: Flick Lives

Every street sign will be MLK Blvd.


24 posted on 06/15/2021 3:46:48 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: LibertyWoman

lol I’m such a doom sayer. I was going to remark that all paper products will be outlawed due to sustainability, punishable for up to $1000 if found in possession of a paper map. But let’s say I didn’t say it.


25 posted on 06/15/2021 3:54:16 PM PDT by conservativeimage (The mask is the boot stamping on the human face forever.)
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To: discostu

That’s the gist of it. System dependencies have dependencies and so on.

I’m on a site reliability engineering team at my company that ‘keeps the lights on’ for our web based services. Monitoring, preparation, system efficiency improvements, escalation chains, etc only work as well as they are designed and followed-through. There are still surprises and combinations that hadn’t been considered until they fail.

I hope they regroup and bulletproof their system soon.


26 posted on 06/15/2021 3:55:44 PM PDT by Textide (Lord, grant that I may always be right, for thou knowest I am hard to turn. ~ Scotch-Irish prayer)
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To: conservativeimage

well...that may happen as nuts as everything is now but I have plenty of ‘paper’ maps already. ;)


27 posted on 06/15/2021 4:10:35 PM PDT by LibertyWoman ("Where there is no law, there is no liberty." Benjamin Rush)
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To: conservativeimage

I still have a few maps and know how to read them. I guess I will hang onto them.


28 posted on 06/15/2021 4:34:07 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: discostu

Well of course “stuff breaks.”

Is that really the case here? Maybe. Maybe.

We just had a major oil pipeline disaster. We know other industries and banks and various levels of government have suffered successful ransomware attacks, and they are ongoing.

Imagine how that would impact public trust if an airline admits its systems are affected like that. Consider if they can crossover into any of the airports control systems.


29 posted on 06/15/2021 4:36:40 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: LibertyWoman
Been keeping this 10lb monstrosity for just the occasion


30 posted on 06/15/2021 4:54:52 PM PDT by conservativeimage (The mask is the boot stamping on the human face forever.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Well of course “stuff breaks.” Is that really the case here?

Commerce Secretary said last week ransom ware attacks are here to stay.

Is that statement defeatism or a declaration of loyalty?

31 posted on 06/15/2021 5:04:38 PM PDT by conservativeimage (The mask is the boot stamping on the human face forever.)
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To: srmanuel

I buy both of those cases.. It’s right in line with my experience in the industry. Company I work for is acquisition based, so we’re all over the world. A while back they decided that key elements of our code building should be centralized to avoid... whatever I never figured that out. And technically speaking they also built redundancy into it. Problem, while they did centralize to multiple locations the build system can’t talk to more than one. When Texas had their power outage we lost our Austin server. We in Tucson couldn’t run a build for a week.

I’m intimately familiar with change control of major companies too. Familiar enough to know there’s what they SAY and what they DO. And they never do what they say.

I’ve seen equivalents to everything you say you’ve never seen. I work on enterprise level software that’s used by over 400 of the Fortune 500, the frequency with which somebody knocks us down and insists they change nothin only they did is at least once a month.


32 posted on 06/15/2021 5:09:33 PM PDT by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick )
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To: conservativeimage
At some point we’re going to wake up and find nobody’s GPS is working

Glossnas will still work. I'm not an Apple fan, but apparently their phones already have it.

Maybe they know something we don't.

33 posted on 06/15/2021 5:10:54 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Textide

Yeah, and folks forget what they’re really going through. I remember a few years ago when Google Analytics took a dump. Half the freaking internet became unreachable because everybody uses GA for their clickthrough billing. Whoops.


34 posted on 06/15/2021 5:11:23 PM PDT by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick )
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To: Secret Agent Man

Yes it is.

No we didn’t have a major pipeline disaster. We had a minor kerfuffle that would have gone by barely noticed if a bunch of idiots hadn’t panic bought.

Ransomware has been going on for the entire 21st century. Annoying but not a big deal.

I don’t think the public trust is any more damaged by “we got hacked” than by “we had a single point of failure”. One way or the other they screwed up. Airport control systems are completely different and still heavily reliant on humans. Cause control towers know better.


35 posted on 06/15/2021 5:13:40 PM PDT by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick )
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To: discostu

Ok, we had a serious supply problem made worse by morons.

Tht doesnt change the fact sbortages occurred up and down the east coast, people ran out of gas, and no one had a good idea if/when it would get back to normal.

They had to pay the ransom. They didnt fix anything on their own.

Bigger picture is the same people that screwed this up, they are hardly an exception as to who runs major systems lots of the population uses and counts on.


36 posted on 06/15/2021 5:21:18 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

No, we had a MINOR supply problem that was already being worked around with truck and dumbasses hoarded supplies and TURNED it serious. Just like the TP situation last year. That was 100% created by dipsticks panic buying for no freaking reason.

Also let’s keep in mind WHAT got sabotaged. The hackers did NOT shut down the pipe. They shut down BILLING. The pipe was fine. They just wouldn’t know who needed to get charged how much.

Bigger picture, people are people. Screw ups happen ALL THE TIME. Probably half the significant companies in the country have somebody do something that MIGHT bring them down every day. Every few months, it does.


37 posted on 06/15/2021 5:27:07 PM PDT by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick )
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To: LibertyWoman

LOL...But can you find one?


38 posted on 06/15/2021 7:13:09 PM PDT by moonhawk (Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the Communist Party? Asking for a friend.)
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To: moonhawk

I have several


39 posted on 06/15/2021 7:21:37 PM PDT by LibertyWoman ("Where there is no law, there is no liberty." Benjamin Rush)
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To: LibertyWoman

So do I—But they are not as easy to come by at your average gas station as they used to be.


40 posted on 06/15/2021 10:04:00 PM PDT by moonhawk (Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the Communist Party? Asking for a friend.)
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